BEWARE- An Alarming AF Trend: Improper Use Of Legacy Disability Evaluation System

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By Jason Perry on Apr 12, 2017 at 3:07 AM
  1. Jason Perry

    Jason Perry Benevolent Leader Site Founder Staff Member PEB Forum Veteran Registered Member

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    I have an important advisory and issue of great importance for Air Force Reserve Component Members (Air Reserve and Air National Guard members).

    A few weeks back a colleague of mine called me and asked whether I had heard of ARC/ANG members being processed through the Legacy Disability Evaluation System (LDES). My friend shared a story of a client who was an AF Reserve member who was referred to the MEB and then the PEB notified his client that he was being processed by the PEB as an LDES case. The client had a current VA rating that was higher than the PEB decision. I was asked what I thought of this and I said that this made no sense and seemed patently illegal. I thought this was just an error or an aberration- until the next day when a prospective client, and ANG member called me and related that while in the MEB process, he was asked to "elect" the LDES process by his PEBLO because his case would be processed faster. My opinion is that this is a patently illegal processing of cases. It is very disturbing to me that this improper use of LDES processing is essentially a policy action by the AF PEBs for ARC/ANG members. Both cases are still processing and there is no definitive answer as to the resolution of this issue, but, I wanted to alert folks about this and let folks know not to agree with LDES processing in cases where they should be processed by the Integrated Disability Evaluation System (IDES).

    Here is a quick overview of the history and differences between the systems. The "traditional" of LDES system is what was in place for all cases prior to about 2008-2009. The LDES is where members are reviewed by the PEB, which determines both a members fitness and the disability rating assigned for any unfitting condition. After many complaints about the PEBs assigning low ratings for conditions that were then found by the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) using the same rating criteria to warrant a higher rating, Congress, in 2008 directed that a joint program was authorized where the PEB would continue to make fitness determinations but the VA would provide the ratings for all service connected conditions and the Military Departments would apply the VA ratings to the conditions found unfitting by the PEB. This program was initially called the "Pilot Program." Here is a reference that discusses this: Documents/NDAA_08_Section_1612c-REPORT.pdf
    After the rollout of the Pilot Program, which happened over several years, it was in about 2011 that the Program was used in almost every case. The result was that members were given higher ratings and retired more often than in the past. This new Pilot Program eventually became known as the Integrated Disability Evaluation System.

    In 2014, the DoD published three regulations, DoDI 1332.18, DoD Manual 1332.18 Vol. 1 and Vol. 2. The regulations provided for all new cases to be processed via the IDES program with a few exceptions. This is an excerpt from DoDI 1332.18:

    "b. The Secretaries of the Military Departments:
    (1) Will use the LDES process for non-duty-related disability cases and for Service members who entered the DES prior to the IDES being implemented at a given MTF.
    (2) Subject to the written approval of the USD(P&R), may also use the LDES process for Service members who are in initial entry training status, including trainees, recruits, cadets, and midshipmen. Secretaries of the Military Departments who enroll initial entry trainees, recruits, cadets, and midshipmen in the LDES must offer to enroll these Service members in the VA Benefits Delivery at Discharge or Quick Start programs.
    (3) Will use the EDES process for consenting Service members designated with a catastrophic illness or injury incurred in the line of duty.
    (4) May designate a Service member’s condition as catastrophic if he or she has a permanent and severely disabling injury or illness that compromises the ability to carry out the activities of daily living. Guidance for procedures unique to the EDES is available in Reference (u).
    c. Except for initial entry trainees, Military Academy cadets, and midshipmen entered into the LDES and catastrophically ill or injured Service members entered in the EDES, will use the IDES process for all newly initiated cases referred under the duty-related process (see Glossary). Guidance for procedures unique to the IDES is available in Reference (q). "

    It is apparent to me that the use of LDES processing for ARC/ANG members is patently illegal. By not processing members under the IDES, members miss out on getting a VA determined rating, by not having the opportunity to request a VA Rating Reconsideration Request (VARR) if they are not in agreement with the VA rating, and they also miss out on having a VA rating and decision that will be applicable once the member is retired or separated.

    In short, the use of LDES is generally not in the members' interest, denies the member important rights, and is contrary to law and regulations.

    Beware of PEBLOs or the PEBs trying to process you through the LDES when you should be going through the IDES!!

    (I will be challenging this new "policy" or development and will update folks on whether this issue is resolved going forward).
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    1. eps17
      AND there is an open window between the PDBR eligibility dates and the termination of all the MEB/PEB cases processed under the legacy system before IDES was fully implemented.

      This has created a pool of decisions which were both processed under the old faulty system and which are not eligible for review.

      It happened to me.

    2. chaplaincharlie
      Wow! Who was the brain child behind this decision? He/she should be subject to charges under the UCMJ.
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    3. ITSmeAF
    4. ITSmeAF
      I have a question and hope someone could help. I have been going through and Emmy be process and I was given A decision back in November saying I get military retirement from the Air Force then a case manager from FPE be submitted documentation illegally and falsely representing me without my knowledge Nor my lawyers knowledge and it has caused my rating to draw from 30% to 20% and also now I'm being military separated with severance. So I was instructed by my lawyer to contact congressmen and senators to look into my case which I have done and nothing has seemed to help if anyone has any other ideas that will help please let me know I'm getting screwed
    5. eps17
      That doesn't make any sense. If you were given this decision you had a choice to accept or deny it. I'm not sure what a case manager for FPE is.

      I've never heard of PEB provided counsel being helpless and encouraging their client to involve elected officials (which by law cannot change or influence any decisions.)

      Provide more information.
    6. ITSmeAF
      So I did except the offer but elected for reconsideration for my percentage to go up I didn't submit the documentation needed in time for the reconsideration so my lawyer just declined it and the case manager at Randolph submitted a reconsideration anyway without the knowledge of my lawyer or myself and the reconsideration package she submitted was my formal board package that I submitted to stay in the Air Force.and win the VA got the package they saw that one of my conditions was getting better and change my percentage but the VA should've never saw the package in the first place it was submitted illegally by the case lawyer submitted a document to have my percentage reinstated and rescinded but the VA refuse to do so in the Air Force is basing their percentage reduction by what the VA is rating me at.
    7. eps17
      File an IG complaint and make sure it is written clearly. Have someone look over your IG complaint and proofread it before you submit.

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