My question is about getting back pay. I thought I would receive backpay before my first payment. Is this something I need to call DFAS about or to call VA about.

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My question is about getting back pay. I thought I would receive backpay before my first payment. Is this something I need to call DFAS about or to call VA about.

My question is about getting back pay. I thought I would receive backpay before my first payment. Is this something I need to call DFAS about or to call VA about.

My question is about getting back pay. I thought I would receive backpay before my first payment. Is this something I need to call DFAS about or to call VA about.

It takes DFAS a month or so to get you the back pay. Once DFAS is done, they send your file over to the VA to look at, and see if they owe you back pay. In my case, I was owed both. The VA sent me a separate deposit for their portion of back pay.

How long does it usually take for an answer, yes or no after application is submitted?

I talked to DFAS today and they basically said what Combat Eng said. Basically the DoD will start normal monthly payments, then they will audit the backpay that I am owed. Then they will pass it to the VA and the VA will audit the amount they owe me.

yea, I figured the DoD owes me 3 months, and VA will owe me 3 as well.

it took about 2 months until I received a letter saying I was approved 40% CRSC for my one condition. After that it took about another month before I saw my first CRSC payment today in my bank account, paid by DoD.

I talked to DFAS today and they basically said what Combat Eng said. Basically the DoD will start normal monthly payments, then they will audit the backpay that I am owed. Then they will pass it to the VA and the VA will audit the amount they owe me.

it took about 2 months until I received a letter saying I was approved 40% CRSC for my one condition. After that it took about another month before I saw my first CRSC payment today in my bank account, paid by DoD.

I talked to DFAS today and they basically said what Combat Eng said. Basically the DoD will start normal monthly payments, then they will audit the backpay that I am owed. Then they will pass it to the VA and the VA will audit the amount they owe me.

Dear Redstripe101:

Was the 40% CRSC for your one condition - is that the same percentage you were given by the DoD for your TDRL/PDRL?

Or were you given a higher DoD percentage and your CRSC was broken out from that percentage?

Just curious how your situation shook itself out.

V/R,

nwlivewire

Dear Redstripe101:

Was the 40% CRSC for your one condition - is that the same percentage you were given by the DoD for your TDRL/PDRL?

Or were you given a higher DoD percentage and your CRSC was broken out from that percentage?

Just curious how your situation shook itself out.

V/R,

nwlivewire

Was the 40% CRSC for your one condition - is that the same percentage you were given by the DoD for your TDRL/PDRL?

Or were you given a higher DoD percentage and your CRSC was broken out from that percentage?

Just curious how your situation shook itself out.

V/R,

nwlivewire

You do know CRSC is not just for DOD unfitting conditions? It is for any VA service connected disability as long as you can connect it to the CRSC parameters.

Yea I know, just worked out like that. Parachute injury pretty cut and dry, others I suffered during non-wartime type training or normal garrison cycles. Couldn't put a date on them, but once I get my anxiety looked at and diagnosed, I'll definitely keep this in mind

How many years of service did you have? Only reason I ask is because I was CRSC approved at 70% , my DOD is 70% and my VA is 100% IUP&T, I have 7 years active. Wanted to use u as a base line

70% = $1505 (based on you, spouse, and one dependent)

7 X 2.5 = 17.5%

0.175 X $3000 (Use your own high three) = $525 (this would be your DOD retirement based on YOS)

$1505 is applied dollar for dollar against what your YOS retirement pay would have been. This means your CRSC pay would be

CRSC is not based on disability percentage. It is always figured on what you make based on years of service. CRSC cannot exceed what you would have made on years of service. The VA compensation table is used to figure what your max that can be used to offset lost YOS retirement dollars.

If you use the formula above, you will be able to figure out what your CRSC payment will be. Just remember where I put $3000 to change it to what your high three average was during your service. You also need to find your dependent situation on the VA compensation tables for 70%

Hope this helps.

Joe

It is very easy to figure out what you are going to get. First look up 70%, with your number of your dependents on the VA compensation chart. This will be your max payable CRSC. Next take your Years of Service (YOS) and multiply by 2.5. This will give you your maximum amount of retirement you would get by YOS. Now multiply that percentage by your high three salary average. This will tell you how much per month your retirement pay would be based on YOS. Last step is to take the max payable CRSC that you figured out in the first step. This money will apply to the YOS retirement dollar for dollar. It will look like this:

70% = $1505 (based on you, spouse, and one dependent)

7 X 2.5 = 17.5%

0.175 X $3000 (Use your own high three) = $525 (this would be your DOD retirement based on YOS)

$1505 is applied dollar for dollar against what your YOS retirement pay would have been. This means your CRSC pay would be**$525**

CRSC is not based on disability percentage. It is always figured on what you make based on years of service. CRSC cannot exceed what you would have made on years of service. The VA compensation table is used to figure what your max that can be used to offset lost YOS retirement dollars.

If you use the formula above, you will be able to figure out what your CRSC payment will be. Just remember where I put $3000 to change it to what your high three average was during your service. You also need to find your dependent situation on the VA compensation tables for 70%

Hope this helps.

Joe

70% = $1505 (based on you, spouse, and one dependent)

7 X 2.5 = 17.5%

0.175 X $3000 (Use your own high three) = $525 (this would be your DOD retirement based on YOS)

$1505 is applied dollar for dollar against what your YOS retirement pay would have been. This means your CRSC pay would be

CRSC is not based on disability percentage. It is always figured on what you make based on years of service. CRSC cannot exceed what you would have made on years of service. The VA compensation table is used to figure what your max that can be used to offset lost YOS retirement dollars.

If you use the formula above, you will be able to figure out what your CRSC payment will be. Just remember where I put $3000 to change it to what your high three average was during your service. You also need to find your dependent situation on the VA compensation tables for 70%

Hope this helps.

Joe

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer."

Best Wishes!

70% = $1505 (based on you, spouse, and one dependent)

7 X 2.5 = 17.5%

0.175 X $3000 (Use your own high three) = $525 (this would be your DOD retirement based on YOS)

$1505 is applied dollar for dollar against what your YOS retirement pay would have been. This means your CRSC pay would be

CRSC is not based on disability percentage. It is always figured on what you make based on years of service. CRSC cannot exceed what you would have made on years of service. The VA compensation table is used to figure what your max that can be used to offset lost YOS retirement dollars.

If you use the formula above, you will be able to figure out what your CRSC payment will be. Just remember where I put $3000 to change it to what your high three average was during your service. You also need to find your dependent situation on the VA compensation tables for 70%

Hope this helps.

Joe

70% = $1505 (based on you, spouse, and one dependent)

7 X 2.5 = 17.5%

0.175 X $3000 (Use your own high three) = $525 (this would be your DOD retirement based on YOS)

$1505 is applied dollar for dollar against what your YOS retirement pay would have been. This means your CRSC pay would be

CRSC is not based on disability percentage. It is always figured on what you make based on years of service. CRSC cannot exceed what you would have made on years of service. The VA compensation table is used to figure what your max that can be used to offset lost YOS retirement dollars.

If you use the formula above, you will be able to figure out what your CRSC payment will be. Just remember where I put $3000 to change it to what your high three average was during your service. You also need to find your dependent situation on the VA compensation tables for 70%

Hope this helps.

Joe

One cap is the VA payment for that %. Its not the higher percentage, they are added together using VA math. Some a single injury at 40% will create a cap of $587 before considering dependents. Multiple conditions that are combat related getting added together and can become a CRSC 100% rating (or above, if SMC applies). Raising the CRSC rating to 100% increases that cap to about $2900 (before dependents).

However, CRSC cannot exceed the amount of retirement you earned based on years of service. So the $557.83 should be that calculation. The increase of the cap based on the rating % won't effect this. You were already maxed out before adding in the PTSD and other claims.

There is also a cap for the amount of retirement is waived to get VA pay, but not a factor in your current scenario.

I can't speak to the fairness of CRSC being the same for a 40% combat related determination and a 100% combat determination. Congress wrote the laws.

70% = $1505 (based on you, spouse, and one dependent)

7 X 2.5 = 17.5%

0.175 X $3000 (Use your own high three) = $525 (this would be your DOD retirement based on YOS)

$1505 is applied dollar for dollar against what your YOS retirement pay would have been. This means your CRSC pay would be

CRSC is not based on disability percentage. It is always figured on what you make based on years of service. CRSC cannot exceed what you would have made on years of service. The VA compensation table is used to figure what your max that can be used to offset lost YOS retirement dollars.

If you use the formula above, you will be able to figure out what your CRSC payment will be. Just remember where I put $3000 to change it to what your high three average was during your service. You also need to find your dependent situation on the VA compensation tables for 70%

Hope this helps.

Joe

You mentioned you have 25 years. Is that all active duty time or years that include IDT, etc.? Do you qualify for a regular retirement (i.e., 20 year AD in "regular Army") at this time? Edited to add: I just noticed, "I am National Guard now but have 25 yrs in and about 16 Active."

The following is generally what is used to compute a CH 61's CRSC entitlement.

1. High three base pay average for retirement**or** your current DoD disability retirement gross found on page one of the DFAS RAS. Please indicate whether you are providing the high three average **or** the retirement gross found on the DFAS RAS.

2. DoD disability retirement percentage.

3. Years and months of active duty EXAMPLE: 11 years and 3 months. For reservists: Active Service includes Active Duty (AD), Active Duty for Training (ADT) and Annual Training (AT) days. AD and ADT days includes any prior active duty service and when a National Guardsman or Reservist is called to active duty, including being mobilized, deploying, training, Active Guard Reserve (AGR)/Full Time Support (FTS), etc. AT days are the annual two week training. Your points that count for AD are divided by 360 to determine the years and months equivalent. I am not a reservist so I have not seen the document(s) that provide that info.

4. VA compensation percentage and amount**plus** identify dependents by category and number EXAMPLE: 60% VA Compensation, $1600, Spouse and 6 children under 18

5. Approved or expected combat related disability percentage (application was required).

Note: Residual retired pay left after VA offset (waiver of retired pay) will reduce the amount of CRSC payable.

The following is generally what is used to compute a CH 61's CRSC entitlement.

1. High three base pay average for retirement

2. DoD disability retirement percentage.

3. Years and months of active duty EXAMPLE: 11 years and 3 months. For reservists: Active Service includes Active Duty (AD), Active Duty for Training (ADT) and Annual Training (AT) days. AD and ADT days includes any prior active duty service and when a National Guardsman or Reservist is called to active duty, including being mobilized, deploying, training, Active Guard Reserve (AGR)/Full Time Support (FTS), etc. AT days are the annual two week training. Your points that count for AD are divided by 360 to determine the years and months equivalent. I am not a reservist so I have not seen the document(s) that provide that info.

4. VA compensation percentage and amount

5. Approved or expected combat related disability percentage (application was required).

Note: Residual retired pay left after VA offset (waiver of retired pay) will reduce the amount of CRSC payable.

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Please provide a reply to every numbered item and all of them included in one post. One veteran provided the info over a two hour period in five separate messages/posts (on another board)...

Regards,

Ron

number years of service was 19

My VA disability was 1719.25 with spouse

2 disabilities for combat related CRSC through DOD was 60%

My Peblo sent me a calculated estimate of 2688 for 60% DOD disability retirement.

I am trying to get an estimate of my final retirement picture.

Thanks for all you do.

Darrin