Stress Fractures during Basic Training

Jason Perry

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I went to BCT in dec 2014, I had a stress fracture in my right hip. I was sent home in feb 2015 for 30 days. when I came back to BCT, I had to do BCT all over again. during the whole BCT process I never fully healed from my stress fracture, I began to swell in my knees and had severe pain. I went to the clinic and the doctor said pretty much that my body was done and I was going to to be medically discharged. the day of out processing I found out that my discharge was uncharacterized. why is that?
Just an educated guess, but, it sounds to me you received an entry level separation. (This is probably wrong, in my opinion).
If you were on orders for 30 days or more (and especially if your total time on active duty was more than 6 months), you should have been processed under IDES.

is it possible that I can get any medical or disability from the VA?
Yes. You should apply.

I still have the annoying pinching in my hip, I just want know what are my options, if there are any!!
Apply to the VA for disability compensation. Also, consider applying to the Army Board for Correction of Military Records for Disability Retirement or at least separation pay.

Best of luck!
 

daniellehig

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Just an educated guess, but, it sounds to me you received an entry level separation. (This is probably wrong, in my opinion).
If you were on orders for 30 days or more (and especially if your total time on active duty was more than 6 months), you should have been processed under IDES.


Yes. You should apply.


Apply to the VA for disability compensation. Also, consider applying to the Army Board for Correction of Military Records for Disability Retirement or at least separation pay.

Best of luck!
thank you for the information
 

Buddy75

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Hello my daughter was giving a 30 day convalescent leave her injurys are grade 3 stress fracture in the left hip area and grade 1 in the right hip area,does this mean she comes home for the 30 days
 

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Hello my daughter was giving a 30 day convalescent leave her injurys are grade 3 stress fracture in the left hip area and grade 1 in the right hip area,does this mean she comes home for the 30 days
There are two separate issues- her convalescent leave and the issue of where she is authorized to travel. She should check with her chain of command (and she might have to request travel outside of her local duty area in order to "come home.")
Asking for permission would be the first step. Likely, the determination would be based on her duty status (i.e., trainees would be more likely not granted a larger travel area....a senior member would more likely be given liberal travel privileges).

Hope all works out well for your daughter!
 

Buddy75

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My daughter is in the army basic training in Fort Leonard, Missouri.
After 1 month there she injured herself, they did a MRI
On her, her injury was a grade 3 stress fracture on the left side of the hip area. They gave her 2 hours to decide surgery or no surgery, she said no. They gave her a 30 day con leave 2 weeks into the 30 days her commander told her that she also had a grade 1 stress fracture on the right side of her hip area. He then yelled at her for not informing him how serious her injurys were, if she would of informed him he would of gave her the 30 day con leave at home. She is very confused and scared, she then told the commander that they have her cleaning,he responded, do as your told.
Any advice is helpful, thank you
 

Buddy75

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There are two separate issues- her convalescent leave and the issue of where she is authorized to travel. She should check with her chain of command (and she might have to request travel outside of her local duty area in order to "come home.")
Asking for permission would be the first step. Likely, the determination would be based on her duty status (i.e., trainees would be more likely not granted a larger travel area....a senior member would more likely be given liberal travel privileges).

Hope all works out well for your daughter!
 

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My daughter is been sent home from Army basic training they gave her a chapter 5-17 what does this mean
This is from Army Regulation 635-200:

"5–17. Other designated physical or mental conditions a. Commanders specified in paragraph 1–19 may approve separation under this paragraph on the basis of other physical or mental conditions not amounting to disability (AR 635–40) and excluding conditions appropriate for separation processing under paragraph 5–11 or 5–13 that potentially interfere with assignment to or performance of duty. Such conditions may include, but are not limited to—
(1) Chronic airsickness.
(2) Chronic seasickness.
(3) Enuresis.
(4) Sleepwalking.
(5) Dyslexia.
(6) Severe nightmares.
(7) Claustrophobia.
(8) Other disorders manifesting disturbances of perception, thinking, emotional control, or behavior sufficiently severe that the Soldier's ability to effectively perform military duties is significantly impaired.
Soldiers with 24 months or more of active duty service may be separated under this paragraph based on a diagnosis of personality disorder. For Soldiers who have been deployed to an area designated as an imminent danger pay area, the diagnosis of personality disorder must be corroborated by the MTF Chief of Behavioral Health (or an equivalent official). The corroborated diagnosis will be forwarded for final review and confirmation by the Director, Proponency of Behavioral Health, Office of the Surgeon General (DASG-HSZ). Medical review of the personality disorder diagnosis will consider whether PTSD, Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI), and/or other comorbid mental illness may be significant contributing factors to the diagnosis. If PTSD, TBI, and/or other comorbid mental illness are significant contributing factors to a mental health diagnosis, the Soldier will not be processed for separation under this paragraph, but will be evaluated under the physical disability system in accordance with AR 635-40.
b. When a commander determines that a Soldier has a physical or mental condition that potentially interferes with assignment to or performance of duty, the commander will refer the Soldier for a medical examination and/or mental status evaluation in accordance with AR 40–501. Command-directed mental status evaluations will comply with paragraph 1– 32e. A recommendation for separation must be supported by documentation confirming the existence of the physical or mental condition.
c. Separation processing may not be initiated under this paragraph until the Soldier has been counseled formally concerning deficiencies and has been afforded ample opportunity to overcome those deficiencies as reflected in appropriate counseling or personnel records. (See para 1–16.)
d. Nothing in this paragraph precludes separation of a Soldier having a condition as described in a, above, under any other provision of this regulation.
e. Prior to involuntary separation under this paragraph, the notification procedure in chapter 2, section I; or the administrative board procedure in chapter 2, section II, will be utilized."

From what you have written, I tend to think this was an inappropriate Chapter. Maybe used to quickly separate her without doing an MEB and PEB.
 

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Is there any advice I could give her about her situation
It is hard to say for sure without knowing more about her situation and the documents she was provided with and that she may have signed and agreed to.

That said, it seems to me that there is a potential for her missing out on valuable benefits and compensation (both from the military and from the VA) depending on what happened in her case.

At this point, I would advise her to talk with the base Legal Assistance office to review her separation and to discuss any options. It is not clear if she could yet stop this separation action or if she will have to raise her potential claims via the appeals process.
 

Country boy0122

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I am currently in almost the same situation. On the 21st of November I was sent to get an mri where they found 2 level 4 stress fractures, one in each femoral neck and a bone neoplasm in my left femur. I had surgery to put screws in my hip and a biopsy on the tumor. The physical therapist says the recovery will take 4 months. I’m not sure where to go from here. Does this mean I will be chaptered? Any advice?
 

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Could my daughter appeal if she got chaptered 5-17 out for femoral neck fracture during army basic training
Yes. If the chapter has already been accomplished and executed, the likely avenue of appeal is through the Army Board for Correction of Military Records.
 
#54
Hello my daughter was in military boot camp for almost 1 month. She recieved a fibula stress fracture. She said no to surgery.Now she's home in pain.they gave her an uncharacterized medical discharge.If she received the stress fracture in military training shouldn't they be responsible to a certain extend.any advice is helpful thank yoy