Physical Evaluation Board System Overview

An overview of the Physical Disability Evaluation System, including the MEB and PEB. Also, important decisions at each stage of the PDES, benefits, continuation on active duty/active reserve ( COAD / COAR ), the eight year rule, and more.

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Physical Disability Compensation

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The question on most of our minds is this: How long is it all going to take? This is an attempt to answer that question, but it's going to take all of us to do it. The idea is to give a very detailed account of the timeline of each person's case. It's one thing to say "in February I was tumpy tumpy" but there's a world of difference and two pay periods between the beginning of the month and end of it. Somwhere there's the theory if the sample population (ours here) is large enough, it comes to represent the whole (all military members going through this). If there are enough people who take notes and are good at remembering dates, or do like I do and keep a monthly planner you can keep notes in, then it would go a long way to...
This post, like this site, is a work in progress. I realized recently that even though all the information on the Physical Disability Evaluation System (PDES) can be found here, first time visitors probably need a guide to understand what is going on with their case. I will be posting a more comprehensive "Guide" in the near future. But for now, I want to put out this post to help newcomers and members alike understand how to use this site. First, in the Physical Disability Evaluation System Overview Forum, you can find some basic overview/information papers on understanding the process. The updated "Guide" that I will publish will eventually replace the info papers found there. But for now, you can get a grasp of the process. I...
BEWARE- An Alarming AF Trend: Improper Use Of Legacy Disability Evaluation System
I have an important advisory and issue of great importance for Air Force Reserve Component Members (Air Reserve and Air National Guard members). A few weeks back a colleague of mine called me and asked whether I had heard of ARC/ANG members being processed through the Legacy Disability Evaluation System (LDES). My friend shared a story of a client who was an AF Reserve member who was referred to the MEB and then the PEB notified his client that he was being processed by the PEB as an LDES case. The client had a current VA rating that was higher than the PEB decision. I was asked what I thought of this and I said that this made no sense and seemed patently illegal. I thought this was just an error or an aberration- until the next day...
Welcome again, everyone (well, as of now I am the only one registered here, but this is for all the future members). As I explained in the anouncement, I have created this site to provide US Military Servicemembers information about the MEB / PEB proccess. This is intended to be a one stop information resource center and discussion board. This is my first message board/website, so please bear with me as I learn more about this board's software and how to improve the user experience. Please feel free to offer suggestions. I know I won't be able to please everyone, but I will listen to input. Well, I hope this Board is helpful to the Servicemembers going through the PDES. I wish everyone the best of luck.
Common issues in the IDES process
So, you are starting in the military disability process....you probably feel like the characters above. Let me point out several pointers and common errors that impact folks in getting to a favorable outcome. 1) Make an honest and fair evaluation of your situation and your goals as early as possible- then fight for your desired outcome. I have stated this countless times. One of the best things you can do to get the outcome you desire is to decide as early as possible what your desired outcome is. I have come across many cases where the member gets a bad outcome because they have "waffled" on what they want. For example, I have seen many cases where a member really wants to be found fit and continue their career. So, at the MEB...
Mind you these are all referenced to the Army, some may cross over to the other services those of you out there please post them on this discussion too! Thanks all!! Legacy-Old MEB/PEB process. IDES-Integrated Disability Evaluation System; new MEB/PEB process. DoD-means any military service/encompasses all. MEB-Medical Evaluation Board. PEB-Physical Evaluation Board. MMRB-MOS/Medical Retention Board. NARSUM-Narrative Summary. IPEB- Informal Physical Evaluation Board. FPEB-Formal Physical Evaluation Board. IPR –Independent Physical Review (Same as IMR). IMR-Independent Medical Review (Same as IPR). PDBR-Physical Disability Board of Review, for those out of the service already that need to correct a...
I was recently contacted by a staff member from the DoD Recovering Warrior Task Force. There is a panel discussion that they are holding in the Crystal City (Arlington), VA on Dec. 5, and they are looking for interested members going through the IDES. I was asked to post this announcement (which sounds like a good opportunity for people to have their concerns heard): The DoD Recovering Warrior Task Force (RWTF) is seeking Wounded, Ill, or Injured Service members who are in the Integrated Disability System Evaluation System (IDES) process, preparing for transition to civilian life, and willing to participate in a panel discussion. The RWTF was established by Congress in 2010 to provide DoD with advice and recommendations on...
Hi, I just received my DA 199. My disposition states that my condition is rated above 75% and permanent. It does not state that I am chapter 61 however. In which, here is my background: US Army Reserves CPT/O3E 24 years of service 5983 Total Points 100% VA Rating Above 75% DoD Rating (70% is combat related) I am reading a lot of materials, and it is unclear what I should expect and entitled to as well. Therefore, my questions are Am I eligible for disability retirement pay? If so, when do i receive it? If not, what do am I eligible for retirement payment? Does this qualify me for chapter 61? If so, what are the benefits of chapter 61? Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I try to plan for the future.
CRSC and Other Medical Retirement Preparations
Good afternoon all, I have a few questions as I prepare for medical retirement. After a typical turnaround time from the IDES (MEDBOARD) I have finally completed all processes and was awarded 100% P&T and 100% DoD. I am full time Army National Guard with 1 years of service at the time of retirement. I received by PDIR today with a proposed separation date of 2 April 2025 and placed on the retirement list 3 April 2025. I was wondering what all I should be aware of and prepare for as time nears for this retirement date and get an update to potential CRSC compensation. 1. I have heard rumors that it is best to have my last date of service be the last day of a month so that I can receive all of a month of VA compensation. If this is...
Hey guys, given that all the information I’m able to find online is super helpful for me I thought I would keep you guys updated with my timeline as well. P3 Initiated: 10/29/24 Second P3 Signature: 11/06/24 PEBLO Contact: 11/12/24 IDES MEB Brief: 11/14/24 C&P1: 12/03/24 C&P2 and 3: 12/04/24 C&P4: 12/05/24 Final C&P: 12/11/24 12/18/24: VES calls me daily with updates but so far they have 3/5 uploaded to the VA, once they’re all uploaded my MSC will send it to my PEBLO so the Army Doc can write up my NARSUM NARSUM: TBD PEB Referral:TBD VA Ratings: TBD VA Compensation letter: TBD DA199: TBD Final Out Orders: TBD
FIRST LIMDU TERM- AUG 2023 SURGERY - SEP 2023 2ND LIMDU TERM - FEB 2024 REFERED TO MEDICAL BOARD - JUN 2024 FIRST VA EXAM - AUG 2024 LAST VA EXAM - SEP 2024 VA REPORT BACK- DEC 2024 NARSUM SIGNED - JAN 2025 Convening Authority signature - ??? Package sent up - ???? Took long but VES fucked me over they took so long to send my reports up. Just wondering on how others felt with VES because they jipped me out on some exams lying on my range of motion I know I moved my back and other parts of my body no more then 30° but yet on the reports it says he wrote 90°. Kind of crazy I mean I know I didn't have to crazy amount of evidence but saying that I'm perfectly normal is insane because I told him I was in pain while doing the rang of motion...
Hello all, I have the following conditions, crohn's disease (likely the 60% VA rating kind, since I'm on biologics), sleep apnea requiring a CPAP, and anxiety. Im at 13.5 years in as a 1n4 AFSC and getting my ARILO routed early because I just don't think I can do it anymore. I'm hoping to get some reassurance that I have a good chance at the board allowing me to medically retire vs medically separate. I'm getting a civilian lawyer to help me out with that. Based on the above, do you all think I have a shot at a decent DOD rating, or just a high VA? Or am I worried about the wrong thing, is medically separating with a huge one time payment and a high VA % just as good as medically retiring? Are there folks who have been down this...
I'm wondering, Since the PEB determine that my referred condition is combat related, that mean my retirement pay will not be taxed (so, it'll basically be like VA pay). Do I really need to file taxes claiming retired pay?? (i'm thinking not because VA disability has never have to be reported to the IRS, seem like it only make sense to be the same way)
Hello I started medical board 06Jun24 and had my last c&p exam 05Sep24. Sense then iv heard nothing from my peblo but last week she email me “ I wanted to let you know that I received your VA Report as of 17DEC2024. I’m now waiting for the provider for review and sign it. I will let you know once completed.” Now I have lots of questions what does this even mean and does this mean I’m closer to getting out. Context I already gave her my personal statement and command NMA statement In early October. Thank you for your time I’m lost and really just don’t know anything about the process.
I am currently a TPU reservist with over 20 years of service, O-6. I am also already 100% P&T with the VA including PTSD (combat) and a couple of Pact Act presumptives also from Iraq. I have a combat action badge from OIF. I am trying to understand the value and ability to obtain a chapter 61 retirement vs just a non-regular retirement to which I am already entitled. If I do a non-regular retirement I will receive the following: -Prior to age 60, 100% VA. -Non-regular retirement pay starting at age 60 based on about 4300 points. - At age 60, 100% VA using CDRP, or whatever I can get through CRSC, whichever is more. I suspect I will get at least 50% CRSC based on the PTSD, and perhaps the Pact Act presumptives will add some. - Tricare...
I have a Permanent Profile With PULHES 231113, P CPAP breathing machine, 3 DDD thoracolumbar Disc Disease with Radiculopathy in both legs, 3 PTSD. For PTSD the Profile says SM does not meet behavioral Health medical retention standards IAW AR 40-501,3-33, The DDD with Radiculopathy I just completed the Last ACFT Functional limitation Form DA 7809; lines 25 A-F on the Physical profile are marked "N" and As well as Lines on the DA form 7809 section 4 14-28 where also No. This was the last thing I had to do for part of the MEB now is just the waiting part. The VA has me rated at 90%, From my understanding, MY PTSD has been done; I am just waiting on the DDD Radiculopathy part of the MEB to get my determination. My question is, I'm at 16...
Based on this what are you all thought on me getting found unfit or fit? Also, would I potentially get 30% or more from DOD? Below is the finding from the MEB. SECTION 7: CONDITIONS NOT MEETING MEDICAL RETENTION STANDARDS 1) Lumbar Degenerative Dise Disease Other Than Intervertebral Dise Syndrome AVDS) IL-31 EPTS: No LOD: Yes Medically Unacceptable Onset 12 November 2020 IAW AR 40-501 Ch 3-20.h 2) Right side Lumbar Radiculopathy [L-3] 3) Left side Lumbar Radiculopathy [L-31 EPTS: No LOD: Yes Medically Unacceptable Onset 12 November 2020 IAW AR 40-501 Ch 3-31.k, 20.h Medical Basis of Diagnosis: The SM with chronic lower back (LBP) pain with Bilateral Lumbar Radiculopathy since November 2020. MRI Spine Lumbar...
Hello all, I was referred to IDES by my PCM on 30OCT. I had my legal briefing and initial PEBLO meeting on 19NOV. I’m currently at 19 years and 2 months of TIS. I’ll have 80 days of terminal leave. During the meeting with my PEBLO, I asked him whether or not I should be concerned about making it to 20 years. He informed me that it is an “unwritten rule” that if a service member is finishing the IDES process within 6 months from their 20 year mark, they will simply use my 20 year mark as the “out date” on my orders. While I do believe him, I’m still a little worried. I don’t want to assume that what he says will be the case only to come up short of my 20 years. Has anyone ever heard of this “unwritten rule” or had a similar...
I’ve been on a running profile for approximately 1 year but not a whole year… I suffer from shin fractures.. I received an email from my PEBLO / DAWG about an IRILO … I’m placed in code 37 I’m currently stationed in Guam where everything is more than limited it took forever for medical to send and find my referral to therapy, additionally it took therapy several weeks to have an opening . My PEBLO told me don’t worry I will be fine but I’ll most likely have code 37 or any code for a while. My leadership is tracking they are going to fight as much as they can for me to stay in.. already in such a short period of time I’ve made so much career progress awards etc .. I don’t want to get out I have a family and I’m not quite ready yet what...
I am currently at 23 years in, and still owe another 1.5 years to retire as an officer, however, the Rheumatologist believes I have Fibromyalgia and wants to wait to run the tests until after I apply for retirement (6 months away from applying). At this point, I am miserable; I am now in an admin function (no longer taking care of Airmen), I hate coming to work, have routine anxiety/panic attacks about coming to work, constantly feeling worn out (also diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome). At what point do I just say give me the MEB and risk losing my officer retirement that I worked really hard for. Additionally, I have suffered a broken back, three torn labrum’s in my hips from a fall at work, hepatic tumor/recision, thyroid...
***Please delete if not allowed*** Hello all! I have been found unfit per my PEBLO and am awaiting my ratings. As SGLI will expire soon after I medically retire, I am looking into private company (non VGLI) term life insurance policies for someone like us who seem to have a lot of pre-existing conditions. Any recommendations for highest coverage/lowest premiums? Thanks!
Hoping to find some old medical records from my first time on active duty in 1997. Some from Fort Riley some from Fort Irwin. Left AD in 2000 came back reserve in 2008. I don’t think I ever had some of these. Basically TMC visits and ER visits. Do I just send a request to the National Personnel Center? I’m wondering if the records even exist anymore.
Hoping someone can provide me som info. TAFMS: 12 years SATSERVICE: 21 years USMC AD 4 years -> USAFR/CA ANG Traditional Reserve -> AGR since 2019 (6 years) Currently an AGR with ETS in 2025 Code AAC 37 /DAV 42 on my AF 469 on 13NOV24 If I am found unfi t and and placed on PRL, how will compensation be calculated? Thanks for the info.
Hello, So I was found unfit Oct 22, 2024. Nov 5th the VA opened and closed my claim on the VA.gov app I’m wondering everyone’s most recent timelines. ? I sent a job offer letter from a family biz to my peblo for an expedited process but I’m now being ignored. Does anyone know the VA number to get a claim status ? Anyone who I can talk to to expedite this process other than my PEBLO?
Good evening, I had some old posts on here about a year ago asking about the MEB process because I was ALMOST about to start the MED board process because my Dr. put me on Renflaxin (immune suppressant). I was put on that medication because Mezalamine did not work. I convinced my Dr. to give Mezalamine one more try and I had 3 or 4 more flare ups after that and now I’m being put back on biological infusions and In the future an at home injection with Entyvio. The MedBoard admin department (totally forgot the name) called me today giving me a heads up and asking for personal admin data saying a decision on the MEB referral from the PCM would be made the next couple weeks. My question is if you’ve had a similar experience or knowledge...

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