Physical Evaluation Board System Overview

An overview of the Physical Disability Evaluation System, including the MEB and PEB. Also, important decisions at each stage of the PDES, benefits, continuation on active duty/active reserve ( COAD / COAR ), the eight year rule, and more.

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The question on most of our minds is this: How long is it all going to take? This is an attempt to answer that question, but it's going to take all of us to do it. The idea is to give a very detailed account of the timeline of each person's case. It's one thing to say "in February I was tumpy tumpy" but there's a world of difference and two pay periods between the beginning of the month and end of it. Somwhere there's the theory if the sample population (ours here) is large enough, it comes to represent the whole (all military members going through this). If there are enough people who take notes and are good at remembering dates, or do like I do and keep a monthly planner you can keep notes in, then it would go a long way to...
This post, like this site, is a work in progress. I realized recently that even though all the information on the Physical Disability Evaluation System (PDES) can be found here, first time visitors probably need a guide to understand what is going on with their case. I will be posting a more comprehensive "Guide" in the near future. But for now, I want to put out this post to help newcomers and members alike understand how to use this site. First, in the Physical Disability Evaluation System Overview Forum, you can find some basic overview/information papers on understanding the process. The updated "Guide" that I will publish will eventually replace the info papers found there. But for now, you can get a grasp of the process. I...
I have an important advisory and issue of great importance for Air Force Reserve Component Members (Air Reserve and Air National Guard members). A few weeks back a colleague of mine called me and asked whether I had heard of ARC/ANG members being processed through the Legacy Disability Evaluation System (LDES). My friend shared a story of a client who was an AF Reserve member who was referred to the MEB and then the PEB notified his client that he was being processed by the PEB as an LDES case. The client had a current VA rating that was higher than the PEB decision. I was asked what I thought of this and I said that this made no sense and seemed patently illegal. I thought this was just an error or an aberration- until the next day...
Welcome again, everyone (well, as of now I am the only one registered here, but this is for all the future members). As I explained in the anouncement, I have created this site to provide US Military Servicemembers information about the MEB / PEB proccess. This is intended to be a one stop information resource center and discussion board. This is my first message board/website, so please bear with me as I learn more about this board's software and how to improve the user experience. Please feel free to offer suggestions. I know I won't be able to please everyone, but I will listen to input. Well, I hope this Board is helpful to the Servicemembers going through the PDES. I wish everyone the best of luck.
So, you are starting in the military disability process....you probably feel like the characters above. Let me point out several pointers and common errors that impact folks in getting to a favorable outcome. 1) Make an honest and fair evaluation of your situation and your goals as early as possible- then fight for your desired outcome. I have stated this countless times. One of the best things you can do to get the outcome you desire is to decide as early as possible what your desired outcome is. I have come across many cases where the member gets a bad outcome because they have "waffled" on what they want. For example, I have seen many cases where a member really wants to be found fit and continue their career. So, at the MEB...
Mind you these are all referenced to the Army, some may cross over to the other services those of you out there please post them on this discussion too! Thanks all!! Legacy-Old MEB/PEB process. IDES-Integrated Disability Evaluation System; new MEB/PEB process. DoD-means any military service/encompasses all. MEB-Medical Evaluation Board. PEB-Physical Evaluation Board. MMRB-MOS/Medical Retention Board. NARSUM-Narrative Summary. IPEB- Informal Physical Evaluation Board. FPEB-Formal Physical Evaluation Board. IPR –Independent Physical Review (Same as IMR). IMR-Independent Medical Review (Same as IPR). PDBR-Physical Disability Board of Review, for those out of the service already that need to correct a...
I was recently contacted by a staff member from the DoD Recovering Warrior Task Force. There is a panel discussion that they are holding in the Crystal City (Arlington), VA on Dec. 5, and they are looking for interested members going through the IDES. I was asked to post this announcement (which sounds like a good opportunity for people to have their concerns heard): The DoD Recovering Warrior Task Force (RWTF) is seeking Wounded, Ill, or Injured Service members who are in the Integrated Disability System Evaluation System (IDES) process, preparing for transition to civilian life, and willing to participate in a panel discussion. The RWTF was established by Congress in 2010 to provide DoD with advice and recommendations on...
Hi, I’m over 18 years TAFMS. Order is set to expire in September. It’s OTOT Temp AGR. I’ve been all active duty service starting in USAF AD. Transferred to ANG for a personal matter. Being told no option for extension. Retirement is on the line. If I pursue medical issues I’m keeping under the radar to trigger a med board would I be med held and the wing forced to keep me on orders until evaluation, treatment, med board is complete? If so, how does this work? What regulation drives this?
After a long wait, I got my PEB results. I had 3 unfits: Back: 40% Neck: 20% Neuro related: 0%. They claim because it’s well medicated and not causing issues. Though I disagree. I’m fortunate finally got meds to control it. It was deemed possibly hereditary. Though I call BS, blame gulf war syndrome. But do say army aggravated it. I have 15 years and I’m BRS and an army reservist with 8yrs of active time with a career, ready for my return lol. Is it worth a big fight, or take the money and run. Also got 90% VA after this PEB. I have 50% from when left active. I assume they haven’t combined them yet.
Good morning y’all, Last month on 15 May my PEBLO called and told me I was found unfit and that the va had been sent my file. On 26 May my claim showed up as closed on the VA app, after some calls I finally was able to find out that I am being proposed at 60% disabled. I’m tracking that all I need before I get orders is to sign everything (DA 199), but as it’s been almost a month since my claim closed, how much longer should I anticipate on waiting?
Hello i started this whole Medboard process on Nov22 of 2023 and I have now Received my Findings of the Informal Peb on Apr. 25 of this year and I sent all of the paperwork back. I was found unfit and have received all my VA ratings. They said 2-3 months after I sent my Election of Options and Narsum back the day after receiving my findings Is it truly 2-3 months until I receive my separation date or what’s your guys experience?
Hi guys, I am being referred to PEB for Hidradenitis Suppurativa and Humira. I want to claim other things as well. Issue I'm having is my pueblo just got fired so the new one has no idea where I am or the job so they are no help. I've joined several groups but it seems no one has heard of my condition and last I have never went to medical and complained about other things. If I could deal with them I did. I thought I had another 10 years to start going to medical to make sure I had documentation for stuff. I know I have ptsd, I don't sleep well I drink too much. I've lost people. So it sucks. I just don't know where to start. I haven't had any appointments. The VA rep I have doesn't know squat either so who knows when I will get an...
This post in on behalf of a colleague of mine. Currently in the ANG with over 20 years of service (18+ active duty) with a Mandatory Separation Date/retirement pending. While on title 10 active duty orders for over a year, the member suffered a mental health event which ultimately lead to a referral and admittance into an inpatient treatment care facility with a PTSD diagnosis. He was scheduled to separate/retire 1 July 24, but due to the placement in treatment was given an 30 day extension under 10 US Code 14519 - Deferment of retirement or separation for medical reasons. Member is still in treatment for a few more days but will be separated at the end of the month. To compound matters, member recently tore his Achilles tendon while...
Hello guys, I received my findings Apr 24 2024 and I sent back all the paper work the following day. I agreed to my findings of 20 DOD/100 VA Since I accepted my findings I was told 2-3 months for my separation date. Any word on how true this is or when I can expect or if there’s anything else. Maybe Jeff could fill me in? Any info would be phenomenal
Hello all, I'm active-duty Air Force with 3 years down and 10 months left on my current contract. I was deployed to a combat zone and was trapped inside an aircraft that caught on fire and due to extreme smoke inhalation, I have been diagnosed with Asthma, sleep apnea and PTSD. (still being tested for COPD and bronchitis I have recently received word that my MEB determined me unfit and now I will be determined by the IPEB for my asthma and sleep apnea (off base therapist just submitted official ptsd diag to my on base therapist) and I was wondering what I can expect in the coming time. I understand the general timeline due to a helpful flight chief and this forum however I am more concerned with what happens after the military for me...
I am currently going through the PEB process. My PEBLO sent my MEB package to IPEB on 13 Jun 24. She said that the Action Officer has 48 hrs from the time she submits the package to open it and start working on it which would put it to 17 Jun at the latest for the Action Officer to start. My PEBLO also stated that the Action Officer has 12 duty days to decide fit/unfit and if unfit then they reach out to the VA for the ratings and the VA has 16 duty days to send those back making it a total of 28 duty days for me to find out if I am fit or unfit. I only have 1 condition they are considering for MEB. Is the 28 duty days realistic for only 1 condition?
Hello! I am a male 8-year active-duty U.S. Air Force and 6-year Air Force Reserves Component member. I transitioned from active duty in 2018 in the reserves component. I was enrolled in med-board in 2019 after having completed my VA disability ratings and answered a PHA questionnaire in line with my disabilities. I am being medically boarded for six unfitting conditions by my reserves wing. Those conditions are PTSD, Anxiety/Depression, Migraines, (all from a Traumatic Brain Injury - suffered from a physical non-sexual assault during my first deployment), Left-Hand Pain/Nerve Damage, Right Knee Pallefemoral syndrome, and Loss of Spchinter control (from two anal surgeries). All of these disabilities were incurred while on active duty...
Hello everyone, Thank you for being part of this group! I am scheduled to retire in April 2026 after completing my Active Duty Service Obligation (ADSO) following my promotion to CW3. However, I have the option to medically retire earlier to have an InterStim device reinstalled to manage my overactive bladder. In 2008, I initially had the device implanted without realizing it would result in a permanent non-deployable status. At that time, regulations did not specify being discharged for this condition. Unfortunately, I had to have the device removed due to it dislodging from my back. I am now at a critical decision point regarding when to have the device reinstalled. My primary concern is ensuring that I am not discharged just shy...
On the topic of personal impact statements, how much weight do they hold when going through a board? And at which point do they get added. I wrote up a very descriptive and thorough statement noting issues that go along with each claim I intend to make. Will this help getting a sufficient rating? Here’s an example of what I wrote for one of the conditions: “**Lumbar Spine (L5-S1) Nerve Compromise**: I have significant limitations in my lumbar spine due to nerve compromise at the L5-S1 level. This condition causes severe lower back pain and radiates down both legs, resulting in intermittent numbness and weakness. The pain intensifies when I bend forward or sit for extended periods, severely limiting my mobility and ability to...
Im new to all of this MEB stuff, ive always tried to hide my injuries, but now its to the point where ive developed a severe case of arthritis, heart issues, high blood pressure and some other minor health problems. I am in the initial stages. I recently received a “met standard” NCOER that i was thinking about asking for a commanders inquiry and fighting it. But i also did read that for your MEB, you do have to prove a decline in work performance. Would it benefit me to just keep this NCOER as a justification for my MEB? I’m an E7 with over 16 years AD, and am not looking to make E8. Thanks you
Forgive me is this is the wrong forum for this: Back Story: I was raised by my paternal grandmother. While in high school, she got terribly sick to where she could live alone but she didn't want to leave her house so I moved in with her and took care of her. I was 16-17 years old. During my senior year of high school, I was unable to continue to caring for her so she finally left her home and moved in with her daughter (My Aunt). Just before my high school graduation, I joined the US Army Reserves. Fast forward to September 11th when they hit the trade centers, I was called to active duty and deployed to the Middle East. While I was there in the Middle East, my grandmother died. My mom sent a red cross message to me informing...
Hello all, I don’t know if this is the right part of the forum for this post but has anyone ever ran into the issue where your MTF will not accept a diagnosis or findings from the VA DBQ forms filled out from the C&P exams and what they did if anything? I know I should expect ratings in about a month or two at the minimum but like everyone else i’m dealing with a lot from my command and they need specific paperwork for everything im dealing with any they’re not really giving me any leeway. And a lot of things are derived from my medical record but not outright diagnosed as they were at the C&P exams. Any advice?
Hi everyone, I have a question regarding use or lose leave and receiving your final out date. I am in the final stages of the PEB (currently awaiting VARR for once of my conditions), once I receive my final out datum I able to get it shifted to the right in order to use my use or lose leave ? Right now I am on administrative leave for a skill bridge fellowship and have 27 days of use or lose and would like to take all 87 days before I transition in conjunction with the 20 PTDY. Has anyone had experience with this ? Any insight would be helpful. Thank you!
I've mentioned in my previous post that I was diagnosed with a congenital blood clotting disorder and the COA is indefinite blood thinners. In the midst of all of this, I had a cardiac cath due to ongoing chest pain (which I still live with) following multiple PEs. I've developed a radial artery thrombus 2 months ago and it has been persistent. I have since developed neuropathy of my right arm secondary to this thrombus. I'm now in pain management. If you have neuropathic pain, then you must know that nothing really relieves it and I live with the feeling of my arm being on fire. I just feel like things are snowballing. I have an appointment with a Neurologist today. I hope I can get answers and some relief. These are issues that may be...
Hey I’ve been in the AF Reserve for nearly two years. My first year and a half was spent on active orders. During this I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis, symptoms started several months after being in. I am now on Remicade and have a LOD for my UC (and my depression caused by it). My NARSUM was sent to AFPC/SG (<—-I think) recently. My PEBLO told me that they will decide my C Code and will probably want to monitor me for a few years before thinking about sending me to MEB. However, my military doc told me that Remicade usually warrants a MEB right away. Can someone help shed some light on this for me? Am I likely to be MEB’d? Timeline? Any previous experiences that might reflect mine? Possible ratings if MEB’d out? Thank you.
I am Zachary I was active duty in the USMC from 11-16, mos 6326. MV-22 avionics technician. Once I separated I joined the AF reserve in March of 17. I do have a VA rating of 30% I did not file until I put on the no pay no points status - I had no intention of filing since I was HMX my time in the Corps. however, January 2019 I was diagnosed with ocular melanoma, February 2019 was my last UTA. I was promptly placed on the MEB / PEB and could not participate in UTA. Now I know covid will makes worse but this process has been confusing and every time I reach out I get the run around. My previous CO seemed to really care and would keep in contact the new one has told me to only use the POC from medical - which is very hard to get a hold...
Hey all, start with the question, then context: How long after file being submitted for MEB should i expect to hear from PEBLO and how will i hear from them? I am new here as i was notified on 13 JUN from my group Surgeon that my file will be sent for an MEB. Long story short, have had a series of knee, neck, and back problems for years, and after last 2 years of treatment and pain management, nothing else can be done really so they sent it. It started when the orthopedic surgeon submit his recommendation for an MEB for my cervical neck, as he said surgery was not an option on one of the discs and there was nothing to reverse the symptoms of the others. Recently i had a fit for duty exam for my lumbar spine and right knee. Lumbar...
Guys, my question is, at what point in the process do I sign the NARSUM, I have heard I am supposed to sign it a few weeks after my C&P exams, some also said I am supposed to sign it with my NMA even though I have already signed that one. What is the actual timeline or when will I get to sign it also where do I get it from?

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