Lost and Confused: Please help!

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NJSailor89

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So I started the IDES process in May, and received a VA rating of 70% to be sent to the PEB. The PEB came back as 'Unfit: Not Rated'. I have gotten multiple different answers from people within the VA, my PEBLO, and Lawyer. Will the VA rescind their findings and lower them because the PEB claimed I cannot prove it is service-connected? There is no prior medical evidence of the conditions prior to the Navy, and I passed both the entrance and overseas medical screenings.

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NJSailor89 said:
So I started the IDES process in May, and received a VA rating of 70% to be sent to the PEB. The PEB came back as 'Unfit: Not Rated'. I have gotten multiple different answers from people within the VA, my PEBLO, and Lawyer. Will the VA rescind their findings and lower them because the PEB claimed I cannot prove it is service-connected? There is no prior medical evidence of the conditions prior to the Navy, and I passed both the entrance and overseas medical screenings.

Welcome to the PEB Forum!

Hmm, what did your assigned IDES attorney say about your current situation? :confused:

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer!"

Best Wishes!

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"The Warfighter: Combat ready and Battle-focused!"
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| ______________ U.S. Army (Retired), DoD 100% PDRL _____________ |
| ______________ DoVA 100% P&T, SMC-L 1/2, SMC-K ______________ |
| ______________ DFAS CRDP (with a FITW exemption)______________ |
| ________________________ DFAS CRSC _________________________|
| _________________________ SSA SSDI _________________________ |

http://www.pebforum.com/site/threads/warrior644s-dod-ides-meb-peb-timeline.23608/

Part 1
DoD IDES MEB/PEB timeline:

07/01/2012:_____SSA SSDI filing date via online
07/13/2012:_____Army P3 Profile initiated by PCM
07/31/2012:_____SSA DDS receipt of SSDI application
09/07/2012:_____Army Unit Commander notified
09/14/2012:_____SSA SSDI awarded as Wounded Warrior
09/14/2012:_____Army MEB Physician appointed
09/18/2012:_____Army PEBLO's initial counseling
09/19/2012:_____DoVA Form 21-0819 completed
09/19/2012:_____DoVA Form 21-4138 completed
11/05/2012:_____DoVA 7 C&P Exams completed
11/08/2012:_____Army MEB NARSUM dictated
11/15/2012:_____MEB DA Form 3947 approved
12/05/2012:_____Army MEB IMR request memo
12/10/2012:_____Army MEB IMR recommendation
12/26/2012:_____Army MEB Soldier's Appeal filed
01/04/2013:_____Army MEB Rebuttal approval
01/07/2013:_____MEB DA Form 3947 (amended)
01/08/2013:_____MEB DA 3947 (amended) signed
01/10/2013:_____Army L3/S3 Profile updated by MEB
01/11/2013:_____MEB DA 3947 (original) resigned
01/22/2013:_____Army PEB Unfit Memorandum
04/05/2013:_____DoVA proposed ratings received
04/05/2013:_____DA Form 199 received
04/05/2013:_____DoD 60% TDRL & DoVA 100%
04/15/2013:_____DA Form 199 signed
04/15/2013:_____Demand FPEB & DoVA reconsideration
04/16/2013:_____DA Form 199 (signed) to USAPDA
04/23/2013:_____IPEB reaffirmed findings with denial
04/26/2013:_____Notification of Formal PEB hearing
04/30/2013:_____Contacted by SPEBC from NCRPEB
05/09/2013:_____Initial NCRPEB SPEBC lawyer meeting
05/13/2013:_____Formal PEB hearing demand withdrawn
06/13/2013:_____Revised VARR request memo to SPEBC
06/18/2013:_____Official VARR request to DoVA D-RAS
08/07/2013:_____Received copy of official VARR request
09/06.2013:_____DoVA revised proposed ratings received
09/06/2013:_____Notification on receipt of revised DA Form 199
09/09/2013:_____Reconsideration #1 DA Form 199 received
09/09/2013:_____DoD 70% TDRL & DoVA 100%
09/18/2013:_____DA Form 199 reconsideration #1 signed
09/18/2013:_____Demand 2nd FPEB & DoVA reconsideration
09/19/2013:_____Recon#1 DA 199 (signed) to USAPDA
11/15/2013:_____IPEB reaffirmed Recon#1 findings with denial
11/19/2013:_____Notification of 2nd Formal PEB hearing
12/16/2013:_____2nd Formal PEB hearing completed
12/19/2013:_____Notification of 2nd FPEB hearing results
12/26/2013:_____2nd FPEB hearing appeal submission due
12/30/2013:_____Notification of 2nd FPEB hearing extension
01/06/2014:_____DA Form 199-1 Formal #1 signed
01/08/2014:_____Formal#1 DA Form 199-1 (signed) to NCRPEB
01/16/2014:_____DoVA face-to-face exit interview with MSC
02/10/2014:_____HQ USAPDA review and SecArmy Approval
02/12/2014:_____Officially cleared CIF with memorandum only
02/25/2014:_____Received notification of TRANSPOC-III message
02/25/2014:_____Walk-in appointment with military RSO
02/28/2014:_____Received military disability retirement orders
03/05/2014:_____Final out date from Active Duty military unit
03/05/2014:_____Received official DD Form 214 from RSO
03/05/2014:_____Official military disability orders sent to PEBLO
03/05/2014:_____DD Form 214 sent to MSC via PEBLO via RSO
03/06/2014:_____Officially start military TDR transition leave
04/23/2014:_____Updated DD Form 214 to MSC via PEBLO via RSO
05/26/2014:_____Last day on Active Duty in U.S. Military
05/27/2014:_____Placement onto the DoD military TDRL

DoD IDES MEB/PEB conditions:
2 referred conditions from DoD - Army
50 claimed conditions for DoVA D-RAS

DoD IDES MEB/PEB total duration:
A glorious 618 calendar days!

DoD IDES MEB/PEB case status:
COMPLETED via placement onto the DoD military TDRL at a DoD (Army) 70% disability rating.

Part 2
DoD TDRL with a DoD LDES PEB timeline:

06/24/2014:_____Submitted DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance application (VA Form 10-8678)
06/27/2014:_____DoVA rating decision document
07/15/2014:_____Date of denial letter for DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance
08/01/2014:_____(DoD 70% TDRL...) "DoVA 100% awarded"
08/06/2014:_____DoVA official ratings decision letter
08/12/2014:_____Received denial letter for DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance
08/13/2014:_____Received DoVA official/final ratings
09/19/2014:_____Submitted DoVA Family Caregivers application (VA Form 10-10CG)
12/15/2014:_____Approved for DoVA Family Caregivers Program (albeit an appeal is warranted)
12/16/2014:_____Received official notification of scheduling for a military TDRL reevaluation
12/31/2014:_____Completed 6-month PTSD C&P re-exam via QTC Medical Services, Inc for DoVA
01/22/2015:_____Submitted Primary Family Caregiver Appeal via DoVA Patient Advocate's Office
01/24/2015:_____Received a 100% PTSD DoVA final rating decision via 6-month C&P re-exam
01/24/2015:_____Entitlement to SMC-S as based on Aid and Attendance/Housebound was granted
01/26/2015:_____Rec'd Family Caregiver Program "Tier Level" Denial Letter from VAMC Director
02/26/2015:_____Received official notification of DoVA documents forwarded to the NCR PEB
03/19/2015:_____Submitted Primary Family Caregiver "Tier Level" Appeal to VISN 6 Office Staff
04/23/2015:_____Received phone call from new PEBLO stating (TDRL) DA Form 199 was available
04/23/2015:_____Received an USAPDA IPEB offer of "DoD 80% rating with a PDRL disposition"
04/30/2015:_____Rec'd Family Caregiver Program "Tier Level" Denial Letter from VISN 6 Director
05/21/2015:_____IPEB reaffirmed its findings with denial and forwarding case to FPEB to schedule hearing
05/25/2015:_____Submitted "Intent to File" DoVA Claim for Active Duty medical conditions after retirement
05/27/2015:_____Received notification from NCR PEB confirming their original findings & convene a FPEB
06/25/2015:_____FPEB denied case and continued placement onto the DoD TDRL until June 2016
07/13/2015:_____Received DA Form 199-1 and have until 22 July 2015 to accept findings or submit appeal
07/20/2015:_____Submitted DA Form 199-1 for acceptance and continuation of DoD TDRL status
07/21/2015:_____Submitted DoVA NOD for claim on 2014 DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance denial decision
08/03/2015:_____Submitted DoVA NOD (VA Form 21-0958) on DoVA final ratings decision letter dated 6 Aug 14
08/11/2015:_____Submitted 2016 DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance application (VA Form 10-8678)
08/17/2015:_____Received official notification being retained onto the TDRL with another exam in June 2016
08/21/2015:_____Submitted S-DVI (RH) application (VA Form 29-4364)
08/21/2015:_____Submitted Application for SGLI Disability Extension (SGLV 8715)
09/08/2015:_____Submitted VA Form 21-2680 via VA PCP at local VAMC
09/09/2015:_____Received notification of approval for SGLI Disability Extension coverage
09/14/2015:_____Received notification of approval for S-DVI (RH) coverage
12/21/2015:_____Awarded DoVA 100% Permanent and Total (P&T) official rating with DEA granted
12/21/2015:_____Entitlement to SMC-P (paid at SMC-L 1/2 rate) based on Aid and Attendance (A&A) granted
12/24/2015:_____Received decision letter of approval for DoVA 100% P&T and SMC-P based on A&A
01/04/2016:_____Submitted DoVA claim appl up to 1 yr after ret. date for add'l Active Duty medical conditions
03/31/2016:_____Contacted by USAPDA TDRL Branch for validation of residential address
04/06/2016:_____Received official notification letter from USAPDA TDRL Branch for periodic TDRL medical re-exam
06/14/2016:_____Awarded entitlement to SMC-K as based on loss of use was granted
06/14/2016:_____Awarded service connection for several conditions & denied service connection for several conditions
06/14/2016:_____One medical issue/contention was deferred due to needed information via a DoVA C&P
07/21/2016:_____Approval of DoVA NOD for 2014 DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance denial decision granted
07/21/2016:_____Completed DoVA C&P Examination for deferred medical condition from notification letter 14 June 2016
07/22/2016:_____Completed second TDRL PTSD C&P re-examination via DLH Solution Corp for U.S. Army Medical Cmd
10/27/2016:_____Rcv telephone notification on second TDRL PTSD C&P re-exam via DLH Corp HQ TDRL Veterans Clinic
11/01/2016:_____Received Consolidated Medical Report on second TDRL Examination via DLH Solution Veterans Clinic
11/07/2016:_____Submitted Consolidated Medical Report on second TDRL Examination to DLH Solution Veterans Clinic
12/09/2016:_____Submitted DoVA NOD (VA Form 21-0958) on DoVA decision letter dated 5 Dec 16
01/13/2017:_____Received a phone call voicemail from new VELO that (TDRL) DA Form 199 was available
01/17/2017:_____Received DA Form 199 recommending remaining on TDRL until May 2018
01/19/2017:_____Scheduled for TDRL Counsel with assigned attorney to review and discuss the DA Form 199
01/24/2017:_____After attorney consultation, decided to accept IPEB findings with continuation of DoD TDRL status
05/15/2017:_____Submitted DFAS CRSC application (DD Form 2860) to HQ USAHRC
06/05/2017:_____Received official letter from USAPDA TDRL Branch stating being retained onto the DoD TDRL
09/30/2017:_____Received Statement of the Case (SOC) from DoVA RO for DoVA NOD decision letter dated 5 Dec 16
10/02/2017:_____Granted full benefits sought on DoVA appeal for Headaches, IBS, & TBI from DoVA NOD dtd 6 Aug 14
10/07/2017:_____Rvc SOC and DoVA RO decision letter from DoVA NOD on final ratings decision letter dated 6 Aug 14
11/15/2017:_____Submitted DoVA Form 9 (Appeal to Board of Veterans' Appeals) for one issue from SOC dtd 2 Oct 17 & Rating Decision dtd 23 Sep 17
11/25/2017:_____Submitted DoVA NOD (VA Form 21-0958) on DoVA decision letter dated 23 Sep 17
04/02/2018:_____Contacted USAPDA TDRL Branch for medical re-exam scheduling update; none on file. Need to wait 60 days for a PEBLO assignment
04/12/2018:_____Contacted USAPDA TDRL Branch via email requesting immediate assistance with unsettling status of TDRL medical re-exam debacle
04/12/2018:_____Received telephone call from USAPDA TDRL Branch stating my TDRL case as been assigned to an NCO for immediate action
04/13/2018:_____Received official notification letter from USAPDA TDRL Branch for periodic TDRL medical re-exam scheduling o/b July 2018
04/19/2018:_____Received telephone call from newly assigned PEBLO then scheduled third TDRL PTSD C&P re-exam via a MTF telephonically
04/19/2018:_____Received an email from new PEBLO confirming the scheduling of a telephonic TDRL examination IAW AR 635-40, Chapter 7
04/23/2018:_____Completed third TDRL PTSD re-examination over the telephone via an Army Military Treatment Facility; that's a first for me!
04/26/2018:_____Received TDRL Election Form, TDRL BH NARSUM and PTSD DBQ from PEBLO; must return election form w/i 5 calendar days
04/29/2018:_____Submitted TDRL Election Memorandum and TDRL Election Form Rebuttal Statement to the PEBLO via email
04/30/2018:_____Received confirmation of receipt for TDRL Election Memorandum and TDRL Election Rebuttal Statement from PEBLO via email
05/23/2018:_____Received a DoVA Regional Office letter certifying my appeal to the Board of Veterans' Appeals (Board) in Washington, D.C.
05/24/2018:_____Received email from PEBLO with TDRL DA Form 199 recommending a retirement disposition and associated DoD disability rating
05/24/2018:_____Contacted Fort Knox MEB Counsel Office for a full review of the TDRL DA Form 199 with their follow-on recommendations
05/29/2018:_____Received a telephone from Fort Knox MEB Counsel Office, then after discussion I rcv'ed email requesting forms completion
05/29/2018:_____Submitted via email the MEB Counsel consent forms for TDRL Re-Eval DA Form 199 review by the Fort Knox MEB Counsel Office
05/31/2018:_____Scheduled appt with assigned MEB attorney to review & discuss TDRL Re-Eval DA Form 199 via Fort Knox MEB Counsel Office
06/01/2018:_____Received a corrected TDRL DA Form 199 via email from PEBLO with a follow-up telephone call notification
06/01/2018:_____Received a corrected TDRL Re-Eval DA Form 199 via email from the Fort Knox MEB Counsel Office
06/01/2018:_____DoD LDES USAIPEB recommends "a rating of 100% and that the soldier's disposition be permanent disability retirement"
06/04/2018:_____Agreed with corrected TDRL Re-Eval DA Form 199; made a Soldier's election, signed it then forwarded to PEBLO via email
06/18/2018:_____Received USAHRC CRSC approval decision letter via USPS mail; total waiting processing time was 13 months and 3 days
06/20/2018:_____Received USAPDA TDRL Branch USPS envelope with a TDRL Removal Memo, DA Orders, and a Retirement Certificate

DoD TDRL with DoD LDES PEB total duration:
A highly glorious 4 years and 17 calendar days!

DoD LDES PEB (Post-DoD IDES) case status:
COMPLETED via placement onto the DoD military PDRL at a DoD (Army) 100% disability rating.

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Warrior644 said:
Welcome to the PEB Forum!

Hmm, what did your assigned IDES attorney say about your current situation?

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer!"

Best Wishes!

Thank you for your reply. I have gotten different answers from multiple VA individuals, my attorney, and my Peblo. Some say yes, some say no. So my question in a nutshell is will my VA Rating change because of the PEB?

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Indeed, you are welcome!

Procedurally within the DoD IDES MEB/PEB process, the answer is no. The DoD must adopt the VA rating issued by the DoVA D-RAS for all PEB-referred "unfit for duty" medical conditions. Take care!

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer!"

Best Wishes!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The Warfighter: Combat ready and Battle-focused!"
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| ______________ U.S. Army (Retired), DoD 100% PDRL _____________ |
| ______________ DoVA 100% P&T, SMC-L 1/2, SMC-K ______________ |
| ______________ DFAS CRDP (with a FITW exemption)______________ |
| ________________________ DFAS CRSC _________________________|
| _________________________ SSA SSDI _________________________ |

http://www.pebforum.com/site/threads/warrior644s-dod-ides-meb-peb-timeline.23608/

Part 1
DoD IDES MEB/PEB timeline:

07/01/2012:_____SSA SSDI filing date via online
07/13/2012:_____Army P3 Profile initiated by PCM
07/31/2012:_____SSA DDS receipt of SSDI application
09/07/2012:_____Army Unit Commander notified
09/14/2012:_____SSA SSDI awarded as Wounded Warrior
09/14/2012:_____Army MEB Physician appointed
09/18/2012:_____Army PEBLO's initial counseling
09/19/2012:_____DoVA Form 21-0819 completed
09/19/2012:_____DoVA Form 21-4138 completed
11/05/2012:_____DoVA 7 C&P Exams completed
11/08/2012:_____Army MEB NARSUM dictated
11/15/2012:_____MEB DA Form 3947 approved
12/05/2012:_____Army MEB IMR request memo
12/10/2012:_____Army MEB IMR recommendation
12/26/2012:_____Army MEB Soldier's Appeal filed
01/04/2013:_____Army MEB Rebuttal approval
01/07/2013:_____MEB DA Form 3947 (amended)
01/08/2013:_____MEB DA 3947 (amended) signed
01/10/2013:_____Army L3/S3 Profile updated by MEB
01/11/2013:_____MEB DA 3947 (original) resigned
01/22/2013:_____Army PEB Unfit Memorandum
04/05/2013:_____DoVA proposed ratings received
04/05/2013:_____DA Form 199 received
04/05/2013:_____DoD 60% TDRL & DoVA 100%
04/15/2013:_____DA Form 199 signed
04/15/2013:_____Demand FPEB & DoVA reconsideration
04/16/2013:_____DA Form 199 (signed) to USAPDA
04/23/2013:_____IPEB reaffirmed findings with denial
04/26/2013:_____Notification of Formal PEB hearing
04/30/2013:_____Contacted by SPEBC from NCRPEB
05/09/2013:_____Initial NCRPEB SPEBC lawyer meeting
05/13/2013:_____Formal PEB hearing demand withdrawn
06/13/2013:_____Revised VARR request memo to SPEBC
06/18/2013:_____Official VARR request to DoVA D-RAS
08/07/2013:_____Received copy of official VARR request
09/06.2013:_____DoVA revised proposed ratings received
09/06/2013:_____Notification on receipt of revised DA Form 199
09/09/2013:_____Reconsideration #1 DA Form 199 received
09/09/2013:_____DoD 70% TDRL & DoVA 100%
09/18/2013:_____DA Form 199 reconsideration #1 signed
09/18/2013:_____Demand 2nd FPEB & DoVA reconsideration
09/19/2013:_____Recon#1 DA 199 (signed) to USAPDA
11/15/2013:_____IPEB reaffirmed Recon#1 findings with denial
11/19/2013:_____Notification of 2nd Formal PEB hearing
12/16/2013:_____2nd Formal PEB hearing completed
12/19/2013:_____Notification of 2nd FPEB hearing results
12/26/2013:_____2nd FPEB hearing appeal submission due
12/30/2013:_____Notification of 2nd FPEB hearing extension
01/06/2014:_____DA Form 199-1 Formal #1 signed
01/08/2014:_____Formal#1 DA Form 199-1 (signed) to NCRPEB
01/16/2014:_____DoVA face-to-face exit interview with MSC
02/10/2014:_____HQ USAPDA review and SecArmy Approval
02/12/2014:_____Officially cleared CIF with memorandum only
02/25/2014:_____Received notification of TRANSPOC-III message
02/25/2014:_____Walk-in appointment with military RSO
02/28/2014:_____Received military disability retirement orders
03/05/2014:_____Final out date from Active Duty military unit
03/05/2014:_____Received official DD Form 214 from RSO
03/05/2014:_____Official military disability orders sent to PEBLO
03/05/2014:_____DD Form 214 sent to MSC via PEBLO via RSO
03/06/2014:_____Officially start military TDR transition leave
04/23/2014:_____Updated DD Form 214 to MSC via PEBLO via RSO
05/26/2014:_____Last day on Active Duty in U.S. Military
05/27/2014:_____Placement onto the DoD military TDRL

DoD IDES MEB/PEB conditions:
2 referred conditions from DoD - Army
50 claimed conditions for DoVA D-RAS

DoD IDES MEB/PEB total duration:
A glorious 618 calendar days!

DoD IDES MEB/PEB case status:
COMPLETED via placement onto the DoD military TDRL at a DoD (Army) 70% disability rating.

Part 2
DoD TDRL with a DoD LDES PEB timeline:

06/24/2014:_____Submitted DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance application (VA Form 10-8678)
06/27/2014:_____DoVA rating decision document
07/15/2014:_____Date of denial letter for DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance
08/01/2014:_____(DoD 70% TDRL...) "DoVA 100% awarded"
08/06/2014:_____DoVA official ratings decision letter
08/12/2014:_____Received denial letter for DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance
08/13/2014:_____Received DoVA official/final ratings
09/19/2014:_____Submitted DoVA Family Caregivers application (VA Form 10-10CG)
12/15/2014:_____Approved for DoVA Family Caregivers Program (albeit an appeal is warranted)
12/16/2014:_____Received official notification of scheduling for a military TDRL reevaluation
12/31/2014:_____Completed 6-month PTSD C&P re-exam via QTC Medical Services, Inc for DoVA
01/22/2015:_____Submitted Primary Family Caregiver Appeal via DoVA Patient Advocate's Office
01/24/2015:_____Received a 100% PTSD DoVA final rating decision via 6-month C&P re-exam
01/24/2015:_____Entitlement to SMC-S as based on Aid and Attendance/Housebound was granted
01/26/2015:_____Rec'd Family Caregiver Program "Tier Level" Denial Letter from VAMC Director
02/26/2015:_____Received official notification of DoVA documents forwarded to the NCR PEB
03/19/2015:_____Submitted Primary Family Caregiver "Tier Level" Appeal to VISN 6 Office Staff
04/23/2015:_____Received phone call from new PEBLO stating (TDRL) DA Form 199 was available
04/23/2015:_____Received an USAPDA IPEB offer of "DoD 80% rating with a PDRL disposition"
04/30/2015:_____Rec'd Family Caregiver Program "Tier Level" Denial Letter from VISN 6 Director
05/21/2015:_____IPEB reaffirmed its findings with denial and forwarding case to FPEB to schedule hearing
05/25/2015:_____Submitted "Intent to File" DoVA Claim for Active Duty medical conditions after retirement
05/27/2015:_____Received notification from NCR PEB confirming their original findings & convene a FPEB
06/25/2015:_____FPEB denied case and continued placement onto the DoD TDRL until June 2016
07/13/2015:_____Received DA Form 199-1 and have until 22 July 2015 to accept findings or submit appeal
07/20/2015:_____Submitted DA Form 199-1 for acceptance and continuation of DoD TDRL status
07/21/2015:_____Submitted DoVA NOD for claim on 2014 DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance denial decision
08/03/2015:_____Submitted DoVA NOD (VA Form 21-0958) on DoVA final ratings decision letter dated 6 Aug 14
08/11/2015:_____Submitted 2016 DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance application (VA Form 10-8678)
08/17/2015:_____Received official notification being retained onto the TDRL with another exam in June 2016
08/21/2015:_____Submitted S-DVI (RH) application (VA Form 29-4364)
08/21/2015:_____Submitted Application for SGLI Disability Extension (SGLV 8715)
09/08/2015:_____Submitted VA Form 21-2680 via VA PCP at local VAMC
09/09/2015:_____Received notification of approval for SGLI Disability Extension coverage
09/14/2015:_____Received notification of approval for S-DVI (RH) coverage
12/21/2015:_____Awarded DoVA 100% Permanent and Total (P&T) official rating with DEA granted
12/21/2015:_____Entitlement to SMC-P (paid at SMC-L 1/2 rate) based on Aid and Attendance (A&A) granted
12/24/2015:_____Received decision letter of approval for DoVA 100% P&T and SMC-P based on A&A
01/04/2016:_____Submitted DoVA claim appl up to 1 yr after ret. date for add'l Active Duty medical conditions
03/31/2016:_____Contacted by USAPDA TDRL Branch for validation of residential address
04/06/2016:_____Received official notification letter from USAPDA TDRL Branch for periodic TDRL medical re-exam
06/14/2016:_____Awarded entitlement to SMC-K as based on loss of use was granted
06/14/2016:_____Awarded service connection for several conditions & denied service connection for several conditions
06/14/2016:_____One medical issue/contention was deferred due to needed information via a DoVA C&P
07/21/2016:_____Approval of DoVA NOD for 2014 DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance denial decision granted
07/21/2016:_____Completed DoVA C&P Examination for deferred medical condition from notification letter 14 June 2016
07/22/2016:_____Completed second TDRL PTSD C&P re-examination via DLH Solution Corp for U.S. Army Medical Cmd
10/27/2016:_____Rcv telephone notification on second TDRL PTSD C&P re-exam via DLH Corp HQ TDRL Veterans Clinic
11/01/2016:_____Received Consolidated Medical Report on second TDRL Examination via DLH Solution Veterans Clinic
11/07/2016:_____Submitted Consolidated Medical Report on second TDRL Examination to DLH Solution Veterans Clinic
12/09/2016:_____Submitted DoVA NOD (VA Form 21-0958) on DoVA decision letter dated 5 Dec 16
01/13/2017:_____Received a phone call voicemail from new VELO that (TDRL) DA Form 199 was available
01/17/2017:_____Received DA Form 199 recommending remaining on TDRL until May 2018
01/19/2017:_____Scheduled for TDRL Counsel with assigned attorney to review and discuss the DA Form 199
01/24/2017:_____After attorney consultation, decided to accept IPEB findings with continuation of DoD TDRL status
05/15/2017:_____Submitted DFAS CRSC application (DD Form 2860) to HQ USAHRC
06/05/2017:_____Received official letter from USAPDA TDRL Branch stating being retained onto the DoD TDRL
09/30/2017:_____Received Statement of the Case (SOC) from DoVA RO for DoVA NOD decision letter dated 5 Dec 16
10/02/2017:_____Granted full benefits sought on DoVA appeal for Headaches, IBS, & TBI from DoVA NOD dtd 6 Aug 14
10/07/2017:_____Rvc SOC and DoVA RO decision letter from DoVA NOD on final ratings decision letter dated 6 Aug 14
11/15/2017:_____Submitted DoVA Form 9 (Appeal to Board of Veterans' Appeals) for one issue from SOC dtd 2 Oct 17 & Rating Decision dtd 23 Sep 17
11/25/2017:_____Submitted DoVA NOD (VA Form 21-0958) on DoVA decision letter dated 23 Sep 17
04/02/2018:_____Contacted USAPDA TDRL Branch for medical re-exam scheduling update; none on file. Need to wait 60 days for a PEBLO assignment
04/12/2018:_____Contacted USAPDA TDRL Branch via email requesting immediate assistance with unsettling status of TDRL medical re-exam debacle
04/12/2018:_____Received telephone call from USAPDA TDRL Branch stating my TDRL case as been assigned to an NCO for immediate action
04/13/2018:_____Received official notification letter from USAPDA TDRL Branch for periodic TDRL medical re-exam scheduling o/b July 2018
04/19/2018:_____Received telephone call from newly assigned PEBLO then scheduled third TDRL PTSD C&P re-exam via a MTF telephonically
04/19/2018:_____Received an email from new PEBLO confirming the scheduling of a telephonic TDRL examination IAW AR 635-40, Chapter 7
04/23/2018:_____Completed third TDRL PTSD re-examination over the telephone via an Army Military Treatment Facility; that's a first for me!
04/26/2018:_____Received TDRL Election Form, TDRL BH NARSUM and PTSD DBQ from PEBLO; must return election form w/i 5 calendar days
04/29/2018:_____Submitted TDRL Election Memorandum and TDRL Election Form Rebuttal Statement to the PEBLO via email
04/30/2018:_____Received confirmation of receipt for TDRL Election Memorandum and TDRL Election Rebuttal Statement from PEBLO via email
05/23/2018:_____Received a DoVA Regional Office letter certifying my appeal to the Board of Veterans' Appeals (Board) in Washington, D.C.
05/24/2018:_____Received email from PEBLO with TDRL DA Form 199 recommending a retirement disposition and associated DoD disability rating
05/24/2018:_____Contacted Fort Knox MEB Counsel Office for a full review of the TDRL DA Form 199 with their follow-on recommendations
05/29/2018:_____Received a telephone from Fort Knox MEB Counsel Office, then after discussion I rcv'ed email requesting forms completion
05/29/2018:_____Submitted via email the MEB Counsel consent forms for TDRL Re-Eval DA Form 199 review by the Fort Knox MEB Counsel Office
05/31/2018:_____Scheduled appt with assigned MEB attorney to review & discuss TDRL Re-Eval DA Form 199 via Fort Knox MEB Counsel Office
06/01/2018:_____Received a corrected TDRL DA Form 199 via email from PEBLO with a follow-up telephone call notification
06/01/2018:_____Received a corrected TDRL Re-Eval DA Form 199 via email from the Fort Knox MEB Counsel Office
06/01/2018:_____DoD LDES USAIPEB recommends "a rating of 100% and that the soldier's disposition be permanent disability retirement"
06/04/2018:_____Agreed with corrected TDRL Re-Eval DA Form 199; made a Soldier's election, signed it then forwarded to PEBLO via email
06/18/2018:_____Received USAHRC CRSC approval decision letter via USPS mail; total waiting processing time was 13 months and 3 days
06/20/2018:_____Received USAPDA TDRL Branch USPS envelope with a TDRL Removal Memo, DA Orders, and a Retirement Certificate

DoD TDRL with DoD LDES PEB total duration:
A highly glorious 4 years and 17 calendar days!

DoD LDES PEB (Post-DoD IDES) case status:
COMPLETED via placement onto the DoD military PDRL at a DoD (Army) 100% disability rating.

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#5

Warrior644 said:
Indeed, you are welcome!

Procedurally within the DoD IDES MEB/PEB process, the answer is no. The DoD must adopt the VA rating issued by the DoVA D-RAS for all PEB-referred "unfit for duty" medical conditions. Take care!

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer!"

Best Wishes!

So if the VA rated me at 40% for my knee I was found unfit for, I should get that 40% from the DoD or am I misunderstanding?

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jessylynn said:
So if the VA rated me at 40% for my knee I was found unfit for, I should get that 40% from the DoD or am I misunderstanding?

Indeed, per the DoDD regulations for the DoD IDES process, procedurally, the answer is yes if that's a PEB-referred "unfit for duty" medical condition rated by the DoVA D-RAS. Take care!

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer!"

Best Wishes!

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"The Warfighter: Combat ready and Battle-focused!"
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| ______________ U.S. Army (Retired), DoD 100% PDRL _____________ |
| ______________ DoVA 100% P&T, SMC-L 1/2, SMC-K ______________ |
| ______________ DFAS CRDP (with a FITW exemption)______________ |
| ________________________ DFAS CRSC _________________________|
| _________________________ SSA SSDI _________________________ |

http://www.pebforum.com/site/threads/warrior644s-dod-ides-meb-peb-timeline.23608/

Part 1
DoD IDES MEB/PEB timeline:

07/01/2012:_____SSA SSDI filing date via online
07/13/2012:_____Army P3 Profile initiated by PCM
07/31/2012:_____SSA DDS receipt of SSDI application
09/07/2012:_____Army Unit Commander notified
09/14/2012:_____SSA SSDI awarded as Wounded Warrior
09/14/2012:_____Army MEB Physician appointed
09/18/2012:_____Army PEBLO's initial counseling
09/19/2012:_____DoVA Form 21-0819 completed
09/19/2012:_____DoVA Form 21-4138 completed
11/05/2012:_____DoVA 7 C&P Exams completed
11/08/2012:_____Army MEB NARSUM dictated
11/15/2012:_____MEB DA Form 3947 approved
12/05/2012:_____Army MEB IMR request memo
12/10/2012:_____Army MEB IMR recommendation
12/26/2012:_____Army MEB Soldier's Appeal filed
01/04/2013:_____Army MEB Rebuttal approval
01/07/2013:_____MEB DA Form 3947 (amended)
01/08/2013:_____MEB DA 3947 (amended) signed
01/10/2013:_____Army L3/S3 Profile updated by MEB
01/11/2013:_____MEB DA 3947 (original) resigned
01/22/2013:_____Army PEB Unfit Memorandum
04/05/2013:_____DoVA proposed ratings received
04/05/2013:_____DA Form 199 received
04/05/2013:_____DoD 60% TDRL & DoVA 100%
04/15/2013:_____DA Form 199 signed
04/15/2013:_____Demand FPEB & DoVA reconsideration
04/16/2013:_____DA Form 199 (signed) to USAPDA
04/23/2013:_____IPEB reaffirmed findings with denial
04/26/2013:_____Notification of Formal PEB hearing
04/30/2013:_____Contacted by SPEBC from NCRPEB
05/09/2013:_____Initial NCRPEB SPEBC lawyer meeting
05/13/2013:_____Formal PEB hearing demand withdrawn
06/13/2013:_____Revised VARR request memo to SPEBC
06/18/2013:_____Official VARR request to DoVA D-RAS
08/07/2013:_____Received copy of official VARR request
09/06.2013:_____DoVA revised proposed ratings received
09/06/2013:_____Notification on receipt of revised DA Form 199
09/09/2013:_____Reconsideration #1 DA Form 199 received
09/09/2013:_____DoD 70% TDRL & DoVA 100%
09/18/2013:_____DA Form 199 reconsideration #1 signed
09/18/2013:_____Demand 2nd FPEB & DoVA reconsideration
09/19/2013:_____Recon#1 DA 199 (signed) to USAPDA
11/15/2013:_____IPEB reaffirmed Recon#1 findings with denial
11/19/2013:_____Notification of 2nd Formal PEB hearing
12/16/2013:_____2nd Formal PEB hearing completed
12/19/2013:_____Notification of 2nd FPEB hearing results
12/26/2013:_____2nd FPEB hearing appeal submission due
12/30/2013:_____Notification of 2nd FPEB hearing extension
01/06/2014:_____DA Form 199-1 Formal #1 signed
01/08/2014:_____Formal#1 DA Form 199-1 (signed) to NCRPEB
01/16/2014:_____DoVA face-to-face exit interview with MSC
02/10/2014:_____HQ USAPDA review and SecArmy Approval
02/12/2014:_____Officially cleared CIF with memorandum only
02/25/2014:_____Received notification of TRANSPOC-III message
02/25/2014:_____Walk-in appointment with military RSO
02/28/2014:_____Received military disability retirement orders
03/05/2014:_____Final out date from Active Duty military unit
03/05/2014:_____Received official DD Form 214 from RSO
03/05/2014:_____Official military disability orders sent to PEBLO
03/05/2014:_____DD Form 214 sent to MSC via PEBLO via RSO
03/06/2014:_____Officially start military TDR transition leave
04/23/2014:_____Updated DD Form 214 to MSC via PEBLO via RSO
05/26/2014:_____Last day on Active Duty in U.S. Military
05/27/2014:_____Placement onto the DoD military TDRL

DoD IDES MEB/PEB conditions:
2 referred conditions from DoD - Army
50 claimed conditions for DoVA D-RAS

DoD IDES MEB/PEB total duration:
A glorious 618 calendar days!

DoD IDES MEB/PEB case status:
COMPLETED via placement onto the DoD military TDRL at a DoD (Army) 70% disability rating.

Part 2
DoD TDRL with a DoD LDES PEB timeline:

06/24/2014:_____Submitted DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance application (VA Form 10-8678)
06/27/2014:_____DoVA rating decision document
07/15/2014:_____Date of denial letter for DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance
08/01/2014:_____(DoD 70% TDRL...) "DoVA 100% awarded"
08/06/2014:_____DoVA official ratings decision letter
08/12/2014:_____Received denial letter for DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance
08/13/2014:_____Received DoVA official/final ratings
09/19/2014:_____Submitted DoVA Family Caregivers application (VA Form 10-10CG)
12/15/2014:_____Approved for DoVA Family Caregivers Program (albeit an appeal is warranted)
12/16/2014:_____Received official notification of scheduling for a military TDRL reevaluation
12/31/2014:_____Completed 6-month PTSD C&P re-exam via QTC Medical Services, Inc for DoVA
01/22/2015:_____Submitted Primary Family Caregiver Appeal via DoVA Patient Advocate's Office
01/24/2015:_____Received a 100% PTSD DoVA final rating decision via 6-month C&P re-exam
01/24/2015:_____Entitlement to SMC-S as based on Aid and Attendance/Housebound was granted
01/26/2015:_____Rec'd Family Caregiver Program "Tier Level" Denial Letter from VAMC Director
02/26/2015:_____Received official notification of DoVA documents forwarded to the NCR PEB
03/19/2015:_____Submitted Primary Family Caregiver "Tier Level" Appeal to VISN 6 Office Staff
04/23/2015:_____Received phone call from new PEBLO stating (TDRL) DA Form 199 was available
04/23/2015:_____Received an USAPDA IPEB offer of "DoD 80% rating with a PDRL disposition"
04/30/2015:_____Rec'd Family Caregiver Program "Tier Level" Denial Letter from VISN 6 Director
05/21/2015:_____IPEB reaffirmed its findings with denial and forwarding case to FPEB to schedule hearing
05/25/2015:_____Submitted "Intent to File" DoVA Claim for Active Duty medical conditions after retirement
05/27/2015:_____Received notification from NCR PEB confirming their original findings & convene a FPEB
06/25/2015:_____FPEB denied case and continued placement onto the DoD TDRL until June 2016
07/13/2015:_____Received DA Form 199-1 and have until 22 July 2015 to accept findings or submit appeal
07/20/2015:_____Submitted DA Form 199-1 for acceptance and continuation of DoD TDRL status
07/21/2015:_____Submitted DoVA NOD for claim on 2014 DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance denial decision
08/03/2015:_____Submitted DoVA NOD (VA Form 21-0958) on DoVA final ratings decision letter dated 6 Aug 14
08/11/2015:_____Submitted 2016 DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance application (VA Form 10-8678)
08/17/2015:_____Received official notification being retained onto the TDRL with another exam in June 2016
08/21/2015:_____Submitted S-DVI (RH) application (VA Form 29-4364)
08/21/2015:_____Submitted Application for SGLI Disability Extension (SGLV 8715)
09/08/2015:_____Submitted VA Form 21-2680 via VA PCP at local VAMC
09/09/2015:_____Received notification of approval for SGLI Disability Extension coverage
09/14/2015:_____Received notification of approval for S-DVI (RH) coverage
12/21/2015:_____Awarded DoVA 100% Permanent and Total (P&T) official rating with DEA granted
12/21/2015:_____Entitlement to SMC-P (paid at SMC-L 1/2 rate) based on Aid and Attendance (A&A) granted
12/24/2015:_____Received decision letter of approval for DoVA 100% P&T and SMC-P based on A&A
01/04/2016:_____Submitted DoVA claim appl up to 1 yr after ret. date for add'l Active Duty medical conditions
03/31/2016:_____Contacted by USAPDA TDRL Branch for validation of residential address
04/06/2016:_____Received official notification letter from USAPDA TDRL Branch for periodic TDRL medical re-exam
06/14/2016:_____Awarded entitlement to SMC-K as based on loss of use was granted
06/14/2016:_____Awarded service connection for several conditions & denied service connection for several conditions
06/14/2016:_____One medical issue/contention was deferred due to needed information via a DoVA C&P
07/21/2016:_____Approval of DoVA NOD for 2014 DoVA Annual Clothing Allowance denial decision granted
07/21/2016:_____Completed DoVA C&P Examination for deferred medical condition from notification letter 14 June 2016
07/22/2016:_____Completed second TDRL PTSD C&P re-examination via DLH Solution Corp for U.S. Army Medical Cmd
10/27/2016:_____Rcv telephone notification on second TDRL PTSD C&P re-exam via DLH Corp HQ TDRL Veterans Clinic
11/01/2016:_____Received Consolidated Medical Report on second TDRL Examination via DLH Solution Veterans Clinic
11/07/2016:_____Submitted Consolidated Medical Report on second TDRL Examination to DLH Solution Veterans Clinic
12/09/2016:_____Submitted DoVA NOD (VA Form 21-0958) on DoVA decision letter dated 5 Dec 16
01/13/2017:_____Received a phone call voicemail from new VELO that (TDRL) DA Form 199 was available
01/17/2017:_____Received DA Form 199 recommending remaining on TDRL until May 2018
01/19/2017:_____Scheduled for TDRL Counsel with assigned attorney to review and discuss the DA Form 199
01/24/2017:_____After attorney consultation, decided to accept IPEB findings with continuation of DoD TDRL status
05/15/2017:_____Submitted DFAS CRSC application (DD Form 2860) to HQ USAHRC
06/05/2017:_____Received official letter from USAPDA TDRL Branch stating being retained onto the DoD TDRL
09/30/2017:_____Received Statement of the Case (SOC) from DoVA RO for DoVA NOD decision letter dated 5 Dec 16
10/02/2017:_____Granted full benefits sought on DoVA appeal for Headaches, IBS, & TBI from DoVA NOD dtd 6 Aug 14
10/07/2017:_____Rvc SOC and DoVA RO decision letter from DoVA NOD on final ratings decision letter dated 6 Aug 14
11/15/2017:_____Submitted DoVA Form 9 (Appeal to Board of Veterans' Appeals) for one issue from SOC dtd 2 Oct 17 & Rating Decision dtd 23 Sep 17
11/25/2017:_____Submitted DoVA NOD (VA Form 21-0958) on DoVA decision letter dated 23 Sep 17
04/02/2018:_____Contacted USAPDA TDRL Branch for medical re-exam scheduling update; none on file. Need to wait 60 days for a PEBLO assignment
04/12/2018:_____Contacted USAPDA TDRL Branch via email requesting immediate assistance with unsettling status of TDRL medical re-exam debacle
04/12/2018:_____Received telephone call from USAPDA TDRL Branch stating my TDRL case as been assigned to an NCO for immediate action
04/13/2018:_____Received official notification letter from USAPDA TDRL Branch for periodic TDRL medical re-exam scheduling o/b July 2018
04/19/2018:_____Received telephone call from newly assigned PEBLO then scheduled third TDRL PTSD C&P re-exam via a MTF telephonically
04/19/2018:_____Received an email from new PEBLO confirming the scheduling of a telephonic TDRL examination IAW AR 635-40, Chapter 7
04/23/2018:_____Completed third TDRL PTSD re-examination over the telephone via an Army Military Treatment Facility; that's a first for me!
04/26/2018:_____Received TDRL Election Form, TDRL BH NARSUM and PTSD DBQ from PEBLO; must return election form w/i 5 calendar days
04/29/2018:_____Submitted TDRL Election Memorandum and TDRL Election Form Rebuttal Statement to the PEBLO via email
04/30/2018:_____Received confirmation of receipt for TDRL Election Memorandum and TDRL Election Rebuttal Statement from PEBLO via email
05/23/2018:_____Received a DoVA Regional Office letter certifying my appeal to the Board of Veterans' Appeals (Board) in Washington, D.C.
05/24/2018:_____Received email from PEBLO with TDRL DA Form 199 recommending a retirement disposition and associated DoD disability rating
05/24/2018:_____Contacted Fort Knox MEB Counsel Office for a full review of the TDRL DA Form 199 with their follow-on recommendations
05/29/2018:_____Received a telephone from Fort Knox MEB Counsel Office, then after discussion I rcv'ed email requesting forms completion
05/29/2018:_____Submitted via email the MEB Counsel consent forms for TDRL Re-Eval DA Form 199 review by the Fort Knox MEB Counsel Office
05/31/2018:_____Scheduled appt with assigned MEB attorney to review & discuss TDRL Re-Eval DA Form 199 via Fort Knox MEB Counsel Office
06/01/2018:_____Received a corrected TDRL DA Form 199 via email from PEBLO with a follow-up telephone call notification
06/01/2018:_____Received a corrected TDRL Re-Eval DA Form 199 via email from the Fort Knox MEB Counsel Office
06/01/2018:_____DoD LDES USAIPEB recommends "a rating of 100% and that the soldier's disposition be permanent disability retirement"
06/04/2018:_____Agreed with corrected TDRL Re-Eval DA Form 199; made a Soldier's election, signed it then forwarded to PEBLO via email
06/18/2018:_____Received USAHRC CRSC approval decision letter via USPS mail; total waiting processing time was 13 months and 3 days
06/20/2018:_____Received USAPDA TDRL Branch USPS envelope with a TDRL Removal Memo, DA Orders, and a Retirement Certificate

DoD TDRL with DoD LDES PEB total duration:
A highly glorious 4 years and 17 calendar days!

DoD LDES PEB (Post-DoD IDES) case status:
COMPLETED via placement onto the DoD military PDRL at a DoD (Army) 100% disability rating.