I was not in the pilot program or anything fast tracked. Just a regular package sent from local board to IPEB.
Sent to IPEB 5 Feb
Returned not fit 24 May
DOS 28 JUN
Air Force March IPEB Packages
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I was not in the pilot program or anything fast tracked. Just a regular package sent from local board to IPEB.
Sent to IPEB 5 Feb
Returned not fit 24 May
DOS 28 JUN
Hi all, I just got my results back today from the IPEB: 30 permanent retirement. 20% for neck, 10% for lower back and the sleep apnea is NOT unfitting. I called and talked to a Mr. Halstead at Lackland about getting the lower back up to 20% and the OSA as unfitting. He said to talk with my doc about getting a new ROM done, request the formal and when I get down there we can discuss options. The OSA is probably not worth fighting since it is well controlled with CPAP = not unfitting. So...
Sent to IPEB 5 Feb
Returned 26 May with 30% permanent retirement
Request for formal will be going in later this week.
Sent to IPEB 5 Feb
Returned 26 May with 30% permanent retirement
Request for formal will be going in later this week.
Hmm, 30% permanent retirement congratulations. Good luck in your bid to get your OSA unfitting, not sure why you are fighting it if you agree it is unfitting but good luck. Can see fighting the lower back especially if you feel the ROM has gotten worse during the long wait to get answers. Glad you got results. Hope retirement is what you wanted, and best of luck in your bid to get your rating increased at the FPEB!
Not sure where the confusion came from, but I'm not going to fight the OSA portion.
I will request a re-evaluation for the lower back ROM. Another ROM study I had puts me at 20%, but it wasn't within the 30 days of the NARSUM so they didn't use that one. My goal has always been to make 20 yrs and get a regular retirement. Since that's not going to happen, I'm just asking for an accurate percentage on what retirement I will be getting. Worst case scenario would have been separate w/severance, and thankfully that is NOT on the table now. Have to discuss the merits of fighting for more % with the wife and make sure we want to prolong this. Our goal has always been to get retirement and the medical benefits that go with it, so even at 30% I'm fairly happy with where it's headed.
I will request a re-evaluation for the lower back ROM. Another ROM study I had puts me at 20%, but it wasn't within the 30 days of the NARSUM so they didn't use that one. My goal has always been to make 20 yrs and get a regular retirement. Since that's not going to happen, I'm just asking for an accurate percentage on what retirement I will be getting. Worst case scenario would have been separate w/severance, and thankfully that is NOT on the table now. Have to discuss the merits of fighting for more % with the wife and make sure we want to prolong this. Our goal has always been to get retirement and the medical benefits that go with it, so even at 30% I'm fairly happy with where it's headed.
And, for the ultimate in ironic timing:
I JUST FOUND OUT THAT I MADE MSGT!!! Line number in the 3900's, so even though I made it, I'll probably never put it on. Anyone know if this will affect my retirement at all, or do I remain a TSgt?
I JUST FOUND OUT THAT I MADE MSGT!!! Line number in the 3900's, so even though I made it, I'll probably never put it on. Anyone know if this will affect my retirement at all, or do I remain a TSgt?
Jason posted somewhere that they have to retire you in the grade that you would have obtained had you not been medically unable to continue in your career. I do not remember the reg...but he did post an exerpt of the thing....and it pretty clearly stated that someone in your position would have to be retired in the grade you were being promoted to since it is your medical issues disqualifying you from further service...Just wish I could remember the reg.
The caveat to that is remember it will probably not effect your pay all that much, even if you do pin on because of the high-3 (36 month avg). May get a few dollars more....
The benefit would be a higher retirement rank on your ID...
Nate
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Diag with possible kidney cancer, Apr 09, First surgery Aug 09 (partial loss of left kidney), placed in MEB status mid-NOV, 2nd surgery OCT 09 (full right kidney loss) both were cancerous, Local Board 1 DEC 09 - 16 MAR 10, not recommended for retention/return to duty.
MEB package submitted 16 MAR 10 to TX; boarded for loss of kidney, partial loss on other and OSA (diag in recovery from 1st surgery). Will have 25yrs this Sept so I'm just waiting for MEB to finish to move on. I wish was in the fast track pilot program, VA wont even talk to you until you have the date in hand.
MEB package submitted 16 MAR 10 to TX; boarded for loss of kidney, partial loss on other and OSA (diag in recovery from 1st surgery). Will have 25yrs this Sept so I'm just waiting for MEB to finish to move on. I wish was in the fast track pilot program, VA wont even talk to you until you have the date in hand.
The VA has a form you can fill out prior to discharge so that once you are discharged you can begin collecting any benefits immediately.
It is form 21-526C, and can be filled out anywhere from 365 days out from separation up to one day out from separation. The difference is which box you click at the top. More than six months out, check the BDD box (benefits delivered at discharge), less than 6 months out check the quick start claim. When you have filled out the form, you need to turn it in with a complete copy of your medical records. The VA will process the claim, assign a tentative rating, and schedule a check up with their own physician to make sure nothing was missed. The form is turned in to the regional VA office for processing, along with the copy of your medical records. Theoretically, you could have your tentative rating from the VA well before your MEB process is completed. AND if for whatever reason you need to claim something else, you just fill out an amendment and submit it. Don't know why they are saying they won't talk to you til you are separated when this is available prior to separation.
They did want an estimate on separation date from those of us undergoing the MEB process, but they did not require the exact date at the TAPS class I went to, and they were accepting forms for turn in during class (assuming people had copies of med records as well...). Downfall in my opinion of waiting until you have separation date is you are potentially going to have only 1-3 months to actually accomplish everything...and there is alot to do besides VA stuff then, including actual outprocessing of military...
Good luck to you in your MEB process, sounds like you deserve a high rating for all your stuff.
It is form 21-526C, and can be filled out anywhere from 365 days out from separation up to one day out from separation. The difference is which box you click at the top. More than six months out, check the BDD box (benefits delivered at discharge), less than 6 months out check the quick start claim. When you have filled out the form, you need to turn it in with a complete copy of your medical records. The VA will process the claim, assign a tentative rating, and schedule a check up with their own physician to make sure nothing was missed. The form is turned in to the regional VA office for processing, along with the copy of your medical records. Theoretically, you could have your tentative rating from the VA well before your MEB process is completed. AND if for whatever reason you need to claim something else, you just fill out an amendment and submit it. Don't know why they are saying they won't talk to you til you are separated when this is available prior to separation.
They did want an estimate on separation date from those of us undergoing the MEB process, but they did not require the exact date at the TAPS class I went to, and they were accepting forms for turn in during class (assuming people had copies of med records as well...). Downfall in my opinion of waiting until you have separation date is you are potentially going to have only 1-3 months to actually accomplish everything...and there is alot to do besides VA stuff then, including actual outprocessing of military...
Good luck to you in your MEB process, sounds like you deserve a high rating for all your stuff.
My package was sent to AFPC March 1, 2010. Still no word. My PEBLO person is giving me attitude because "I am bothering her".
Really?! That is common I guess among PEBLO's. And if it keeps up, I would report her to Patient Advocate...
Her job is to be your "Liasion" during this, that means answering simple questions, like how much longer do you think it will take...without attitude.
Her job is to be your "Liasion" during this, that means answering simple questions, like how much longer do you think it will take...without attitude.
yeah that was the impression i was under. can't say i was surprised though, seeming pretty standard.. you would think she/he would be compassionate or understanding at the very least.
My package was just returned to be re-accomplished by the MEB a 2nd time. They now want an LOD to be completed for each of 7 listed conditions and a new narrative summary. An LOD for the orginal injury was already complete. Complications from that injury caused the new conditions to include RSD, and pulmonary embolisms.
SO, at least we know March packages are being reviewed now. I suspect mine will go back to the end of the line once re-accomplished--again.
SO, at least we know March packages are being reviewed now. I suspect mine will go back to the end of the line once re-accomplished--again.
AN LOD for each listed condition when they are all caused by the original condition! WOW, sorry to hear that the package has been returned for something like this...seems like common sense that the LOD would be YES!
I would be asking PEBLO why this wasn't required in first place when package was sent up (CAN'T be first time this has happened like this)? AT least you know they looked at and noticed SOMETHING was missing....
Hope that once you get all the stuff they want reaccomplished that they expedite this process for you (Since it is PEBLO job to know what is needed in package and make sure it is complete before it is sent). Good luck getting this re-accomplished, and really hope you get a GREAT outcome after all this mess!
I would be asking PEBLO why this wasn't required in first place when package was sent up (CAN'T be first time this has happened like this)? AT least you know they looked at and noticed SOMETHING was missing....
Hope that once you get all the stuff they want reaccomplished that they expedite this process for you (Since it is PEBLO job to know what is needed in package and make sure it is complete before it is sent). Good luck getting this re-accomplished, and really hope you get a GREAT outcome after all this mess!
Well, today is day #100 for me since my package was sent to AFPC. I'm almost sure I won't hear anything until the end of the month...the VA must have missed something on the Neurology exam, because they sent me a letter last week to reschedule a C&P exam for 20 Jun. This is good and bad. It is a sign that HOPEFULLY the VA is looking at my package and if history is any indication on these boards--AFPC is done with it and ruled me UNFIT on something (probably the TBI or Migraines, duh!!). The bad news is I have to wait for the 20th, then the VA to drag its feet and return the findings (percentages) to AFPC....so AFPC can hee and haw over them before they contact my PEBLO. And that's if everything goes right and nobodys screws up the process...
I will call the VA 1-800# after the exam to try to get some info...., but methinks it will be the end of the month--at least.
It think it is fairly obvious I am in the pilot program...but just thought I'd mention that.
Nate
I will call the VA 1-800# after the exam to try to get some info...., but methinks it will be the end of the month--at least.
It think it is fairly obvious I am in the pilot program...but just thought I'd mention that.
Nate
I had made sure copies of my LODs were placed in my medical records--however they weren't sent. The first time my records went forward to the IPEB, the IPEB didn't ask for the LODs and gave me a rating of 40% permanent which I appealed. I think this is something *NEW*, and all reservists and guard need to be sure their LODs are sent with their packages now. As far as the PEBLO is concerned--they've already passed the buck. They sent the request to my commander requesting the "NEW" LODs and he in turn sent the request to the Air Force Reserves. I already know their answer "WTF, we already completed LODs on this guy--they don't need new ones." With the bureaucracy involved I suspect this will cause my case to drag on for months before it even gets back to the IPEB.
So, the LOD's were already there, and just not sent! Or that is how it sounds based on the above...and now they want "NEW" ones! Man I am sorry to hear this. Seems to me to be a waste of time, because the LOD's were done, but not sent. Anyway, here's hoping that they don't drag their feet on this, and the out come when it finally comes is what you want this time!
I just got copies of the new LODs yesterday which are pending AFRC approval. Four new LODs for complications all originating from the same injury (not including the one completed in Aug 2008). This has got to be a first and a new precedent--LODs required for illnesses/complications incured while on active duty from past injuries. I think ARPC has overstepped their bounds here. A line-of-duty (LOD) Misconduct Determination is not supposed to be used for this purpose. What misconduct could have ocurred after incurring pulmonary embolisms from a swollen leg while on active duty awaiting the PEB outcome? It's just more fodder for Congress to chew on once I get the information to them. Another DES outrage.
From AFI-36-2910 Line of Duty Misconduct Determination: A LOD is not required when there is, "An illness, disease or death of natural origin, clearly not involving misconduct or
caused by abuse of drugs or alcohol."
I thought it was fast too, until I saw they were actually requested in May and they're still not yet approved by ARPC. The bottom line is that AFPC had no authority to require new ones since they were for illnesses and the LODs already completed should have sufficed since I've been on active duty since Jul 2008. All this did was to delay my case even more.