Camp Lejeune timeline

What Was your referring conditions?
Me being found unsuitable for sea duty is what triggered my medboard. NAVPERS directed a PEB for mental health, eosinophilic esophagitis, hypertension and shortness of breath.
The medboard said out of all of those the only thing boardable was eosinophilic esophagiitis. So that’s what they referred me to the PEB for.

My NMA was neutral according to my lawyer and contradictory. For example it states: “Considering the member's current physical condition is he worldwide assignable: No. Although he passed his sea screening, USS LINCOLN's medical team refused his orders after a review of the screening's findings. It is possible other sea-going commands would do the same.” But also “Explanation of what member substantively can or cannot do regarding the primary duties of his rating: Service Member has successfully performed all analyst functions and regular watch duties without issue. He has not been on light or limited duty because of his medical conditions outlined in his sea service screening. He has not been given any physical restrictions, so there has been no impediment to carrying out his primary duties.” which isn’t true because technically one of my duties is being able to go to a sea going command and as of right now none will accept me due to my referred condition.


I’m pretty heated. The findings were extremely contradictory, for example it says “The member has a confirmed diagnosis of EOSINOPHILIC ESOPHAGITIS and DYSPHAGIA. Treatment has successfully diminished or resolved the symptoms sufficiently so that the member can perform the duties of rate/rank/MOS at sea, on shore or in a deployed status, the facts of which are supported by the medical record. Specifically the NARSUM notes asymptomatic with treatment of oral medication” however my NARSUM states: “Prognosis Statement: This condition is not stable. It is not likely to improve to allow return to duty in the office, grade, rank, or rating within 12 months. It is likely that there will be a significant change in the SM's disability level in the next three years. The SM will continue to require intermittent primary and specialty care for this condition over the next 12 months and into the foreseeable future.”

My lawyer also found out that my PEBLO “forgot” to attach the official message from NAVPERS to my initial medboard which is probably why I only had one referring condition out of all of the ones they had directed me to the PEB for.

I will likely be found unfit, VA rating for mental health was 70%, and last week I was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis and will have to be on a biologic injection for the rest of my life. According to the diagnosing doctor, that is an automatic disqualification and would have triggered a medboard on its own. We will see what happens.

Also, for reference, I was found fit before they even sent my stuff off to be rated. Which is mind boggling. Why even give me a rating if you’re finding me fit?
 
Damn dude I'm sorry to hear the process is gonna drag its feet even longer. I'm even more surprised that your claim closed and you got the fitness determination so fast.
I am too, when they called my wife instantly had a feeling that it didn’t go our way because of how fast they determined. According to the paperwork, I was found fit about a week or so after my case was submitted.

Honestly, I feel the worst for my wife and kids. We were three days away from PCSing to San Diego when my orders were cancelled due to this process starting. August will make it a year that we’ve been living in limbo. They’ve really been through it. I’m just hoping all of this will be worth it when it’s all said and done.
 
Me being found unsuitable for sea duty is what triggered my medboard. NAVPERS directed a PEB for mental health, eosinophilic esophagitis, hypertension and shortness of breath.
The medboard said out of all of those the only thing boardable was eosinophilic esophagiitis. So that’s what they referred me to the PEB for.

My NMA was neutral according to my lawyer and contradictory. For example it states: “Considering the member's current physical condition is he worldwide assignable: No. Although he passed his sea screening, USS LINCOLN's medical team refused his orders after a review of the screening's findings. It is possible other sea-going commands would do the same.” But also “Explanation of what member substantively can or cannot do regarding the primary duties of his rating: Service Member has successfully performed all analyst functions and regular watch duties without issue. He has not been on light or limited duty because of his medical conditions outlined in his sea service screening. He has not been given any physical restrictions, so there has been no impediment to carrying out his primary duties.” which isn’t true because technically one of my duties is being able to go to a sea going command and as of right now none will accept me due to my referred condition.


I’m pretty heated. The findings were extremely contradictory, for example it says “The member has a confirmed diagnosis of EOSINOPHILIC ESOPHAGITIS and DYSPHAGIA. Treatment has successfully diminished or resolved the symptoms sufficiently so that the member can perform the duties of rate/rank/MOS at sea, on shore or in a deployed status, the facts of which are supported by the medical record. Specifically the NARSUM notes asymptomatic with treatment of oral medication” however my NARSUM states: “Prognosis Statement: This condition is not stable. It is not likely to improve to allow return to duty in the office, grade, rank, or rating within 12 months. It is likely that there will be a significant change in the SM's disability level in the next three years. The SM will continue to require intermittent primary and specialty care for this condition over the next 12 months and into the foreseeable future.”

My lawyer also found out that my PEBLO “forgot” to attach the official message from NAVPERS to my initial medboard which is probably why I only had one referring condition out of all of the ones they had directed me to the PEB for.

I will likely be found unfit, VA rating for mental health was 70%, and last week I was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis and will have to be on a biologic injection for the rest of my life. According to the diagnosing doctor, that is an automatic disqualification and would have triggered a medboard on its own. We will see what happens.

Also, for reference, I was found fit before they even sent my stuff off to be rated. Which is mind boggling. Why even give me a rating if you’re finding me fit?
AFAIK they complete the ratings regardless. My MSC told me that single piece of useful information before returning to his know-nothing state. See attached:
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I am too, when they called my wife instantly had a feeling that it didn’t go our way because of how fast they determined. According to the paperwork, I was found fit about a week or so after my case was submitted.

Honestly, I feel the worst for my wife and kids. We were three days away from PCSing to San Diego when my orders were cancelled due to this process starting. August will make it a year that we’ve been living in limbo. They’ve really been through it. I’m just hoping all of this will be worth it when it’s all said and done.
Your board is pretty screwed up. I hope things pan out in the end, here's to hoping you get a knock-out lawyer for the FPEB. I'm gonna assume silence on my end is good news if the alternative is a fitness determination coming back so quickly after the VA claim closing. My dad put it this way: you're still getting a paycheck while this fiasco unfolds. That helps me deal a bit.

After more research, I found a comment that said
“After the VA exams it goes back, to PEB. PEB decides fit or unfit. If fit it comes back to you with a modified profile. If unfit, it goes to DRAS (VA ratings).” so it looks like you are unfit @thanks4urhelp.
This message you sent earlier did confuse me though. The idea of a profile is Army if memory serves. Can you clarify what you meant by this? And also where you found that quote if possible.
 
AFAIK they complete the ratings regardless. My MSC told me that single piece of useful information before returning to his know-nothing state. See attached:
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Your board is pretty screwed up. I hope things pan out in the end, here's to hoping you get a knock-out lawyer for the FPEB. I'm gonna assume silence on my end is good news if the alternative is a fitness determination coming back so quickly after the VA claim closing. My dad put it this way: you're still getting a paycheck while this fiasco unfolds. That helps me deal a bit.


This message you sent earlier did confuse me though. The idea of a profile is Army if memory serves. Can you clarify what you meant by this? And also where you found that quote if possible.
The quote was from a Reddit thread and the person who commented was either a former VA rater or a current employee.
I will try and find the thread again and post the link if I do.
 
Your board is pretty screwed up. I hope things pan out in the end, here's to hoping you get a knock-out lawyer for the FPEB. I'm gonna assume silence on my end is good news if the alternative is a fitness determination coming back so quickly after the VA claim closing. My dad put it this way: you're still getting a paycheck while this fiasco unfolds. That helps me deal a bit.
That is very true man still getting a paycheck and place to live, I feel like you have probably already been determined fit or unfit and just won't find out until you get your findings back or get someone with access to the VTA tracker because I am 3 weeks behind your case and luckily my MSC was willing to check the VTA tracker and let me know I was found unfit.
 
That is very true man still getting a paycheck and place to live, I feel like you have probably already been determined fit or unfit and just won't find out until you get your findings back or get someone with access to the VTA tracker because I am 3 weeks behind your case and luckily my MSC was willing to check the VTA tracker and let me know I was found unfit.
Yeah heads will roll if they ask me how they did during my board. Some kids came to my door asking to wash my car for cash and I knew I needed to go on vacation when I thought to myself that these kids were more useful than my MSC.
 
Yeah heads will roll if they ask me how they did during my board. Some kids came to my door asking to wash my car for cash and I knew I needed to go on vacation when I thought to myself that these kids were more useful than my MSC.
Same. My MSC has actually been pretty ok, my lawyer is awesome, my PEBLO on the other hand.
I know I mentioned previously that she sent me someone else’s letter, well when she sent me my findings instead of the IPEB election of options she sent me the FPEB form, filled out completely wrong. Not to mention the inconsistency of dates. She’s going to get a very negative ICE comment from me.
 

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Same. My MSC has actually been pretty ok, my lawyer is awesome, my PEBLO on the other hand.
I know I mentioned previously that she sent me someone else’s letter, well when she sent me my findings instead of the IPEB election of options she sent me the FPEB form, filled out completely wrong. Not to mention the inconsistency of dates. She’s going to get a very negative ICE comment from me.
Sorry to hear it. It seems most peblos are the same
 
How long have you been in the qa?
Jeff told me that he got the proposals from the VA on the 29th and my claim closed on the 28th. Seems that the 29th my QA had begun, so a grand total of 3 days.

I'm gonna be honest when I say I think these timeline estimates are bogus. I just want to document what I'm being told so anyone else can look at this fiasco when it's all said and done and have something final to chew on.

Today marks the 50 day mark since I've been at the PEB. Took 6 days to get accepted, and it took 47 of those days for the VA to wrap up their work. I'll format my timeline again for readability's sake.
 
202210XX - Injury sustained.
20230524 First and only LIMDU cycle
20231025 Referred to IDES (154 days)
20240123 Case accepted by MEB (90 days)
20240129 VA/Legal Brief & Claims submission through MSC (6 days)
20240205 C&P exams scheduled through VES (7 days) (10th, 15th, 22nd, & 27th)
20240210 Tinnitus C&P (5 days)
20240215 Mental C&P (5 days)
20240222 General/Head-to-Toe C&P (7 days)
20240227 TBI C&P (5 days)
20240305 Sleep study C&P (7 days)
20240402 NMA received (28 days)
20240410 Final legal review, personal impact statement signed and submitted. (8 days)
20240411 Final MEB review prior to signature to send MEB package to PEB phase. (1 day)
20240417 PEB accepted my case for action. (6 days)
20240513 Checkout started. Will finish when final proposal comes back. (26 days)
20240517 VA raters forward proposals onto my claim. A decision letter quoting 100% permanent and total disability with 40% for my referred condition and one deferred claim was sent to me, along with a separate breakdown of individualized ratings proposals attached with instructions to the VSR. (4 days)
20240528 VA claim closes. Agents inform me that the old files I received were deleted from the claim, and new files attached. New files consist of a subsequent development letter stating I can claim more scars found on my exam along with an entirely different proposal letter. The proposal letter states I have been found unfit and that the VA is proposing 100% disability. I also receive an email from my MSC that the PEB is currently voting on a fitness determination. Once a determination is made the findings will return and I will be offered to sign or appeal. (11 days)
20240529 Jeff at the PEB confirms I have entered post-VA QA stage. (1 day)

My medboard process turned 1 years old a week ago... yay...
 
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Jeff told me that he got the proposals from the VA on the 29th and my claim closed on the 28th. Seems that the 29th my QA had begun, so a grand total of 3 days.

I'm gonna be honest when I say I think these timeline estimates are bogus. I just want to document what I'm being told so anyone else can look at this fiasco when it's all said and done and have something final to chew on.

Today marks the 50 day mark since I've been at the PEB. Took 6 days to get accepted, and it took 47 of those days for the VA to wrap up their work. I'll format my timeline again for readability's sake.
I think there's no method to it at all some. Some people start the process after and there's is done extremely fast some take forever. I think alot people just tell you what you want to hear to get you off the phone. You could call Jeff 5 times and get 3 different answers. The same with VA. So it is completely up in the air. I'm at 40 days and still no contact from peblo or anyone other than va and Jeff on PEB updates
 
I think there's no method to it at all some. Some people start the process after and theirs is done extremely fast some take forever. I think alot people just tell you what you want to hear to get you off the phone. You could call Jeff 5 times and get 3 different answers. The same with VA. So it is completely up in the air. I'm at 40 days and still no contact from peblo or anyone other than va and Jeff on PEB updates
Come to think of it I don't think you posted your timeline. If you'd like to I'm sure there are plenty of eager eyes and ears. At the 40 day mark it was pretty quiet aside from harassing Jeff and the VA. Nothing gave me a heads up that a proposal was in the works and it ended up being in the works with files for me to beg for at the 37 day mark. Might wanna see if they have anything for you to glean.
 
My timeline is
Referred to MEB 2024JAN10
Accepted JAN 24
Medical c and p completed MAR08
NARSUM signed APR17
PEB accepted APR19
VA claims closed in app on MAY17
 
Come to think of it I don't think you posted your timeline. If you'd like to I'm sure there are plenty of eager eyes and ears. At the 40 day mark it was pretty quiet aside from harassing Jeff and the VA. Nothing gave me a heads up that a proposal was in the works and it ended up being in the works with files for me to beg for at the 37 day mark. Might wanna see if they have anything for you to glean.
Also do you have your new decision letter? I saw you posted your first one what was different from your 1st to second Letter
 
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