CRSC CALCULATOR

chaplaincharlie

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May I suggest you upload it to the resource section of the website.
 

edwards7986

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Oh, i didnt know there was that. Thank you for the info...i posted it in there.
 

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Hello, I made a crsc calculator for download that is pretty easy to use. link after smiley face......................:)CRSC BOOK.xlsx
Thank you for your contribution. I ran a couple of simple scenarios through it and the results were accurate. I was curious how it treated residual retired pay and that type case was accurate as well; however, it did not show that the retiree also retains the residual retired pay (plus the CRSC) nor does it address the limitation that the combination of residual retired pay and CRSC cannot exceed the longevity portion of retired pay. The math was correct; the lack of an explanation might result in questions.

Perhaps, that could be addressed in your accompanying YouTube narrative.

Will you be available to answer questions concerning the mechanics of the calculator?

Nice job...

Ron
 

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Hello Ron, thankyou for the reply. The calculator only displays crsc pay. It does account for retired residual, and it also caps the result at the longevity portion of the dod pay. I didn't think to include a total combined income.
Of course i am available to go over the mechanics of the calculator, and i apologize if i give slow responses, my health isn't the greatest right now.
 

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Hello Ron, thankyou for the reply. The calculator only displays crsc pay. It does account for retired residual, and it also caps the result at the longevity portion of the dod pay. I didn't think to include a total combined income.
Of course i am available to go over the mechanics of the calculator, and i apologize if i give slow responses, my health isn't the greatest right now.
Yes, I noticed the cap and the fact that residual retired pay was considered when presenting the CRSC.

I mentioned those items only because of the questions I have fielded.

I relate to the poor health situation. Same here.

Your calculator gave accurate answers to my test questions.

Common issues regarding CRSC estimates.
—Inability of the retiree to provide high three OR gross retired pay.
—Confusion about the use of active duty time or active duty equivalent needed for computation of longevity portion of retired pay.
—incorrect data for other elements needed for estimate.

This is what I usually request.
Information necessary for CRSC estimate:
—High three average base pay OR the gross retired pay on DFAS RAS (which is preferred)
—DoD disability percentage
—Active duty years OR active duty equivalent years for those with reserve time (total points divided by 360)
—VA compensation percentage; amount; and dependents (category, number, and ages of children)
—Approved CRSC percentage
—Other type military retirement eligibility info

Ron
 

edwards7986

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Yes, I noticed the cap and the fact that residual retired pay was considered when presenting the CRSC.

I mentioned those items only because of the questions I have fielded.

I relate to the poor health situation. Same here.

Your calculator gave accurate answers to my test questions.

Common issues regarding CRSC estimates.
—Inability of the retiree to provide high three OR gross retired pay.
—Confusion about the use of active duty time or active duty equivalent needed for computation of longevity portion of retired pay.
—incorrect data for other elements needed for estimate.

This is what I usually request.
Information necessary for CRSC estimate:
—High three average base pay OR the gross retired pay on DFAS RAS (which is preferred)
—DoD disability percentage
—Active duty years OR active duty equivalent years for those with reserve time (total points divided by 360)
—VA compensation percentage; amount; and dependents (category, number, and ages of children)
—Approved CRSC percentage
—Other type military retirement eligibility info

Ron
the calculation for crsc can be a little confusing, for me it was wrapping my head around the crsc offset and the 3 other steps to finally get to the pay. i see alot of questions posted in this site and around the internet regarding crsc pay and estimate without clear simple answers(except here, you taking the time to calculate individually for people). while this calculator wont change anything with the info it provides, i just hope this soothes some idle hands in the long wait that alot of us on this forum endure.
 

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Re: "...for me it was wrapping my head around the crsc offset and the 3 other steps to finally get to the pay."

CRSC is a replacement for some or all of the VA offset (waiver/reduction of retired pay) required in certain circumstances.

I have seen receiving CRSC (off and on) since 2006 and doing estimates for 10 years or more.
What was difficult for me was the lack of an example of the steps. I finally learned through Mike Parker (maparker) of this site that one needs to remember the various limits/ceilings and the applicable laws and determine how to derive the product desired. Obviously, one needs knowledge of how to compute retired pay as well.

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Ron
 

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Great job on creating a functional tool. This issue comes up frequently and your tool will help many people. I am glad @RonG reviewed your tool. It is alway good to have confirmation that the formulas... are accurate. Programming bugs are fairly common so a second set of eyes is great!
 

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I wanted to thank all you gentlemen for providing an exceptional resource. I just retired November 2019 and just got my CRSC percentage today-I was able to download and use the calculator to estimate what I should see coming in once DFAS processes the paperwork sent from Army HRC.

I think an opening summary that defines the CRSC equation, the input variables, and the conditional considerations (Ch.61 < 20 years and/or when VA offset still leaves a residual remaining DFAS payment as such is the case in my situation) would be immensely helpful in the conditional situation word document for CRSC.
eg. A+B = C 2. A-C = D 3. D+E=F. I know my example isn't great and maybe something like this already exists. Please let me know if it does.
It just seems to me that a clearly defined equation that can be stripped or fully burdened with data would be super helpful if it doesn't already exist.

My numbers are listed below and would sincerely appreciate your assistance in further proofing the calculator against my inputs below:
a. high-3 = $7,640
b. 100% DoD = max 75%/$7,640 = $5,730 gross retired pay
c. 16 Years and 9 months of active duty = 16.75
d. VA = 100% P&T, final rating; w/spouse and 4 children all under 18
e. CRSC = 90% final approved rating; $2,363.96 IAW guidance to utilize VA compensation tables with base rate at $2,132.96 and $77 per additional child (x3)
f. Chapter 61 retiree, Permanent Disabled Retired List, transitioned on legacy retirement, not blended retirement

A calculator I found through PEB Forums with a FEB 2020 update; my CRSC monthly take home is $1133.44 according to that excel spreadsheet.

Thank you again for what you do gentlemen!
 

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Hello chiefdup,

Your info.

a. high-3 = $7,640
b. 100% DoD = max 75%/$7,640 = $5,730 gross retired pay
c. 16 Years and 9 months of active duty = 16.75
d. VA = 100% P&T, final rating; w/spouse and 4 children all under 18
e. CRSC = 90% final approved rating; $2,363.96 IAW guidance to utilize VA compensation tables with base rate at $2,132.96 and $77 per additional child (x3)
f. Chapter 61 retiree, Permanent Disabled Retired List, transitioned on legacy retirement, not blended retirement

The calculator produced a CRSC value of $1,133.44

Comments.
a. OK
b. Yes, except I would use the symbol x (or *) since it is multiplication rather than division ( / )
c. Yes
d. Amount needed for computation. 100% spouse & child 3,406.04 + (3 @ 86.05 ) = 3664.19
gross retired pay minus VA amount: 5730 - 3664.19 = 2065.81 residual retired pay
e. Departure from your format. 16.75 AD years x 0.025 = 41.88% longevity multiplier
f. Departure from your format. 7640 High three x 0.4188 = 3199.63 longevity portion of retired pay
g. CRSC from tables @ 90% with deps cited: 2,132.96 + (3 @ 77) = 2363.96 CRSC
h. The combination of CRSC plus residual retired pay cannot exceed the longevity portion of retired pay. CH 61 retiree with less than 20 years AD.
i. Longevity amount minus residual retired pay, 3199.63 - 2065.81 = 1133.82 maximum CRSC
J. Based on you data, you will receive each month:
DFAS: 2065.81 residual + 1133.82 CRSC = 3199.63 which is the longevity amount
VA: 3664.19 VA compensation


Note: My manual computation resulted in the same CRSC amount as Edward's calculator. Thank you Edwards.

Ron
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Denny

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So I used this calculator and just want to be sure I did it right if someone could verify

high 3 4046
DOD disbility 70%
14 years 4 months
va 100% one spouse two children under 18
CRSC rating 90% (computed approx 2132 from VA table is what I'm unsure of)
Medically retired no redux and never opted into Blended.

The calc I got was 1445.88
Can anyone help me verify
 

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So I used this calculator and just want to be sure I did it right if someone could verify

high 3 4046
DOD disbility 70%
14 years 4 months
va 100% one spouse two children under 18
CRSC rating 90% (computed approx 2132 from VA table is what I'm unsure of)
Medically retired no redux and never opted into Blended.

The calc I got was 1445.88
Can anyone help me verify
Hello,

1. 4046 x 0.70 = 2832.20; reduced to zero by VA comp amount
2. 14.33 AD x 0.025 = 35.8% longevity multiplier
3. 4046 x 0.358 = 1448.47 longevity amount of retired pay
4. 90% CRSC = >2000
5. CRSC = 1448.47 paid by DFAS

The insignificant difference is due to rounding.

Nice addition by @edwards7986 to the tools available.


Ron
 

Denny

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Thanks for the confirmation Ron. Still don’t understand how it work
 

RonG

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Thanks for the confirmation Ron. Still don’t understand how it work
Hello @Denny ,

I am unsure of what you mean. I provided the estimated amount of CRSC you will receive (same as the Edwards' amount) CRSC = 1448.47 paid by DFAS
You will also receive 3000+ from the VA as VA compensation. The total of the two is more than 4500 each month. Generally, for Chapter 61 retirees, CRSC is the lesser
--of the dollar amount of the longevity portion of the retired pay (your case)
OR
-- the amount associated with the approved CRSC percentage approved by one's service. Your amount was greater than 2000 so I did not extract the precise amount from the VA comp Tables.

If not for CRSC, which replaces some or all of waived retired pay, you would receive only the 3000+ from the VA.

The law requires that a military retiree waive a portion of their gross DoD retired pay, dollar for dollar, by the amount of their Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) disability compensation pay; this is known as the VA waiver (or VA offset).

Some retirees who receive VA disability compensation may also receive CRDP or CRSC payments that make up for part or all of the DoD retired pay that they waive to receive VA disability pay.

The FY 2003 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) (P.L. 107-314, sec. 636) authorized CRSC for certain retirees with combat- or operations-related disabilities. The FY 2003 authority provided combat related special compensation (CRSC) to those retirees with qualifying disabilities rated at 60% or higher, and to those retirees with disabilities (regardless of disability level) associated with the award of a Purple Heart decoration.

The 2004 NDAA expanded CRSC to include all combat- or operations-related disabilities, effective January 1, 2004—regardless of disability level (10% to 100% ratings), effective January 1, 2004.


The 2008 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) signed into law on January 28, 2008 expands eligibility of CRSC to anyone receiving military retired pay. This includes: Medical Chapter 61, Temporary Early Retirement Act (TERA) and Temporary Disabled Retirement List (TDRL) retirees. These new eligible components for CRSC went into effect January 1, 2008.

Ron
 
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Denny

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Ron I was just saying it sarcastically about how it is calculated. That excel is a godsend and I know what numbers I used its just a lot is
Hello @Denny ,

I am unsure of what you mean. I provided the estimated amount of CRSC you will receive (same as the Edwards' amount) CRSC = 1448.47 paid by DFAS
You will also receive 3000+ from the VA as VA compensation. The total of the two is more than 4500 each month. Generally, for Chapter 61 retirees, CRSC is the lesser
--of the dollar amount of the longevity portion of the retired pay (your case)
OR
-- the amount associated with the approved CRSC percentage approved by one's service. Your amount was greater than 2000 so I did not extract the precise amount from the VA comp Tables.

If not for CRSC, which replaces some or all of waived retired pay, you would receive only the 3000+ from the VA.

The law requires that a military retiree waive a portion of their gross DoD retired pay, dollar for dollar, by the amount of their Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) disability compensation pay; this is known as the VA waiver (or VA offset).

Some retirees who receive VA disability compensation may also receive CRDP or CRSC payments that make up for part or all of the DoD retired pay that they waive to receive VA disability pay.

The FY 2003 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) (P.L. 107-314, sec. 636) authorized CRSC for certain retirees with combat- or operations-related disabilities. The FY 2003 authority provided combat related special compensation (CRSC) to those retirees with qualifying disabilities rated at 60% or higher, and to those retirees with disabilities (regardless of disability level) associated with the award of a Purple Heart decoration.

The 2004 NDAA expanded CRSC to include all combat- or operations-related disabilities, effective January 1, 2004—regardless of disability level (10% to 100% ratings), effective January 1, 2004.


The 2008 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) signed into law on January 28, 2008 expands eligibility of CRSC to anyone receiving military retired pay. This includes: Medical Chapter 61, Temporary Early Retirement Act (TERA) and Temporary Disabled Retirement List (TDRL) retirees. These new eligible components for CRSC went into effect January 1, 2008.

Ron
Ron I was just saying it sarcastically about how it is calculated. That excel is a godsend and I know what numbers I used its just a lot is all.

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