CRSC Issue related to PTSD being combat related.

Warrior644

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ok, I was recently denied CRCS for PTSD (50% by VA) due to insufficient documentation. I apparently did not go into enough detail regarding the direct enemy mortar attacks we received. Is there anything else I need to consider prior to sending my DD149 and DD2860 back to AFPC? I have re-written to be more direct and explain how we had no way to return fire while being attacked. Thank you in advance.
Hmm, did your DoVA C&P Examination for PTSD list the stressor(s) of that medical condition at that particular point in time? If so, you should include a copy of that medical record for additional proof at least in my opinion. Take care!

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer!"

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Hmm, did your DoVA C&P Examination for PTSD list the stressor(s) of that medical condition at that particular point in time? If so, you should include a copy of that medical record for additional proof at least in my opinion. Take care!

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer!"

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Thank you. I have gone back and printed all of the PTSD report which attributes my PTSD to two events during my last deployment. I had not thought about that.
 

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Thank you. I have gone back and printed all of the PTSD report which attributes my PTSD to two events during my last deployment. I had not thought about that.
Indeed, no worries; you are welcome! Take care!

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer!"

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eps17

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@MHites,

I'm telling you right now; USAF CRSC approval for PTSD is extremely difficult. I submitted a signed letter from my now retired commander attesting to the rockers, mortars, dead bodies, IEDs, gunfire, etc. and still got denied with my deployment orders, pictures, other statements, medical records from being treated in Iraq, broken bones, etc. etc.

I even submitted EPRs showing ALL of the above and then some and they still denied that I was in "combat" which is just crazy.
 

MHites

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Wow, I am not sure what to think. I just mailed off the papers again with all psychological notes includes this time that specifically state what they told me I was missing. I am hoping since that statement is in there over 20 times, this will work. They were referencing direct enemy attacks which should seem obvious.
 

terrence

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That is splitting hairs to an extreme. Let's see I would not have fallen off the hill had 300,000 Chinamen not been trying to bayonet me. Also under direct fire. Really... not bad for Government work.

Unbelievable that so many people working in MEB/PEB/CRSC have this crazy holier than thou attitude. They act like every guy who puts in for anything is a mouch. I wish this much scrutiny was put into welfare, social security benefits, and the half million other government programs that dole out money to people who have done nothing.

Survived Chosin Reservoir yet did not make it passed the Monday morning quarter back. Makes me proud to be an American knowing that our own Government puts such effort in to scrutinizing every detail of guys that risked all.

I could understand the Taliban doing something like this. I can not fathom another American being this obtuse.
Bro.. you are right on point. It sad that someone would overthink that scenario and deny benefits. The best answer ever.. Sadly, we do..
 

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A guy is actively engaged in combat, being fired upon and returning fire, and while avoiding enemy fire sustaines injuries, and you recommend denial. Nice. I think you were getting a little too far into the weeds with that guy and really overthinking it. Was he in combat, yes. He was injured while actively returning fire. And you're going to split hairs because he wasn't injured from a bomb or a bullet. The fall was a result of active combat. If the enemy had not been attacking him, he would not have needed to return fire while walking backwards.
And if it wasn't for the infantrymen fighting battles in the jungles of Vietnam I wouldn't have been in a supply depot in Hanoi when a box fell on my head . . . The law was written to give special compensation to people who sustained disabilities as the result of combat or simulation of combat or exceptionally hazardous duties. As a direct result doesn't take a whole lot of interpretation (or hair splitting).
 

RaiderX

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Well if you were in Hanoi. You would of been a POW as it was the Capital of North Vietnam at the time.
 

Ed Mercanti

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Damn. Note to self. Don't answer this stuff when your tired ;-)
 

JA1979

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Applied for CRSC, letter came back stating not eligible “Due to not having Waiver of Military Pay in Lieu of VA Compensation”. Recieved Waiver from VA and sent it back to CRSC.

Was Medically Retired (PDRL)
Army: 70% Combat Related (PTSD)
VA: 100% (70% Combat Related PTSD)

Question is: has CRSC ever denied eligibility to someone regardless if both the Army and VA find it Combat Related? So far the Waiver was the only thing missing from packet, hopefully nothing more IAW to CRSC letter sent to me. Any information is appreciated.
 

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Getting CRSC for PTSD is going to be difficult unless the application is very specific to define the exact CRSC stressor. Combat related as a definition to the Army and VA for compensation and pension is much different than the CRSC definition.
 

TOT31

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Applied for CRSC, letter came back stating not eligible “Due to not having Waiver of Military Pay in Lieu of VA Compensation”. Recieved Waiver from VA and sent it back to CRSC.

Was Medically Retired (PDRL)
Army: 70% Combat Related (PTSD)
VA: 100% (70% Combat Related PTSD)

Question is: has CRSC ever denied eligibility to someone regardless if both the Army and VA find it Combat Related? So far the Waiver was the only thing missing from packet, hopefully nothing more IAW to CRSC letter sent to me. Any information is appreciated.
If you have any combat award's (with or without valor such as a bronze star with or without v or accommodation medals / combat ribbon / combat badge) you will have a narrative reason for receiving the decoration or award. Send all narratives for any combat award's or decorations and tie whatever descriptive combat action is listed in the narrative to your PTSD. An example would be "engaged and destroyed an enemy sniper position" or expert leadership was instrumental in fighting through a complex ambush in sadr city on 12 may 2004". Eval reports can also be submitted with a descriptive combat narrative such as " successfully executed hundreds of combat reconnaissance patrols without a loss of assigned personnel or equipment". All you have to do is tie your PTSD to these pieces of evidence in the portion of your crsc app that asks for you to describe in your own words why you are qualified for crsc
 

TOT31

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gs Fowler is 100% correct and accurate when saying that the dod and va definition of combat related is different from the crsc board definition. gs Fowler is one of the first members to shed light on this fact and how to approach this issue. Ron is also an expert in the field of crsc so key in on their posts about crsc. Good luck
 

JA1979

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If you have any combat award's (with or without valor such as a bronze star with or without v or accommodation medals / combat ribbon / combat badge) you will have a narrative reason for receiving the decoration or award. Send all narratives for any combat award's or decorations and tie whatever descriptive combat action is listed in the narrative to your PTSD. An example would be "engaged and destroyed an enemy sniper position" or expert leadership was instrumental in fighting through a complex ambush in sadr city on 12 may 2004". Eval reports can also be submitted with a descriptive combat narrative such as " successfully executed hundreds of combat reconnaissance patrols without a loss of assigned personnel or equipment". All you have to do is tie your PTSD to these pieces of evidence in the portion of your crsc app that asks for you to describe in your own words why you are qualified for crsc
Thank for the information, No award for valor or anything, it was documented by Army Doc’s down range and post deployment for issues having as well as Mental/Behaviraol/PTSD specialist from garrison unit, all document symptoms are worsening and have no timeframe for full recovery, as well stated on MEB/PEB Board process, and still going through process to deal with it. All documentation has been sent to CRSC from Army and VA recorded documention as well as all other required paperwork needed. Will post if I here anything, I sent the Waiver last week, so hopefully it will be uploaded to the HRC website to see if processing. Thanks again for all the information.
 
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