Desperately seeking advise

Lag89

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I really need some advise and/or insight into what to do about my husbands current situation. He served in the national guard for 14 years and has 2 combat tours, one on Iraq from 2006-2007 and one in Afghanistan from 2011-2012. He landed in the combat stress unit on his first deployment to Iraq after an he lost a good friend during a convoy back to his FOB. There are many people in his current unit that are aware of this incident and how deeply it affected him.

In July of 2019, my husband suffered a mental break down and had to be committed. The diagnosis was PTSD and MDD with psychosis. His unit found out that he was suicidal after I confided in the FRG leader and then they found out about his hospitalization. He was given a disability counseling statement which said “do not perform any military duties (tier 1) until a determination of fitness is made by a doctor authorized by the government” (I attached it below)

They paid him his drill pay ($350) for the three months and then nothing. He had also lost his civilian job due to his mental state and I was at the end of a high risk pregnancy so I couldn’t work. I used all our savings to pay rent, we went without our gas on for 3 months, and our credit is destroyed. Worst of all, we almost became homeless with our premature son and young daughter. Thankfully just days before rent was due I contacted our governors office and within a week he was given his VA rating. He was rated 100% permanent and total.

Last week the family life counselor called from his unit and wants him to come in to see a doctor. I am sooo angry with them. They abandoned him, never once checking to see if he was even alive. No one has explained what we should expect or what the plan is for him. I know he will probably be medically discharged but I don’t know the process or who is supposed to be doing it. My husband is devastated about being discharged. The military is so much a part of his identity and he feels like he is losing everything. The stress is making him hear voices. I don’t know how they expect him to competently make decisions right now.

Please, any advise is appreciated! What do I need to know?
 

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I’m sorry your situation. I believe that it would be in his best interest to be in contact with his unit.
 
I’m sorry your situation. I believe that it would be in his best interest to be in contact with his unit.
Is there someone at his unit who is supposed to be his contact person? How do I find out who that is? The only person who has called is a contractor who does counseling.
 
Is there someone at his unit who is supposed to be his contact person? How do I find out who that is? The only person who has called is a contractor who does counseling.
I would start with the unit first sergeant. He/she should be able to point you in the right direction.

The unit commander who signed the document you provided would be a good second choice.

Ron
 
Your husbands conditions sounds serious. Auditory hallucinations merit treatment. I hope he is continuing all treatment for his own benefit, as well as, the benefit fof your children,

He may be eligible for other benefits and that may be what the letter is about. I would contact the first sergeant at his unit to find out what is going on.
 
Your husbands conditions sounds serious. Auditory hallucinations merit treatment. I hope he is continuing all treatment for his own benefit, as well as, the benefit fof your children,

He may be eligible for other benefits and that may be what the letter is about. I would contact the first sergeant at his unit to find out what is going on.
Thank you for taking the time to respond. Yes, he is in currently in intensive outpatient after he finished the in-patient program. He is determined to beat this. They say with medication and therapy, there is a good chance for recovery.

I left a message with his first sergeant and sent an email so I’m just waiting for a response.
 
So I spoke with his first sergeant and he said that he doesn’t know because once my husbands condition was known at the state level, they took over. I’m not sure what the state has to do with anything. I looked into the credentials of the therapist he was who was contacting him and it said she is a coordinator with the Surgeon Generals office. My husband sent his medical record to her mid December and she asked if he had a LOD and that’s the last time he spoke to her. I tried calling her but she isn’t returning my calls and her phone goes right to voicemail. The first sergeant also said they were “nice enough” to give him his drill pay under STR but they couldn’t continue it. I don’t know what STR means either and can’t find it on the web. He said that the I should contact the medical MSG and ask him to find out but he’s not in this week. I left a message and am waiting to hear from them too. Any idea what’s going on?
 
Your husbands conditions sounds serious. Auditory hallucinations merit treatment. I hope he is continuing all treatment for his own benefit, as well as, the benefit fof your children,

He may be eligible for other benefits and that may be what the letter is about. I would contact the first sergeant at his unit to find out what is going on.

So I spoke with his first sergeant and he said that he doesn’t know because once my husbands condition was known at the state level, they took over. I’m not sure what the state has to do with anything. I looked into the credentials of the therapist he was who was contacting him and it said she is a coordinator with the Surgeon Generals office. My husband sent his medical record to her mid December and she asked if he had a LOD and that’s the last time he spoke to her. I tried calling her but she isn’t returning my calls and her phone goes right to voicemail. The first sergeant also said they were “nice enough” to give him his drill pay under STR but they couldn’t continue it. I don’t know what STR means either and can’t find it on the web. He said that the I should contact the medical MSG and ask him to find out but he’s not in this week. I left a message and am waiting to hear from them too. Any idea what’s going on?
 
So I spoke with his first sergeant and he said that he doesn’t know because once my husbands condition was known at the state level, they took over. I’m not sure what the state has to do with anything.

Your husband is the under his command until the day he is retired, either medically or separated. The state does take charge of the MEB, but usually he would still drill. He may want to work something out with the unit and drill 1 day a month (if possible) as to not fall behind on his SGLI and any family life insurance. Sounds like he was coded for pay purposes without being present.

STR (service treatment records?)

Some states have civilian liaison’s that can be contacted. Might could possibly reach out to the unit FRG leader and see if they can get phone numbers and or names.

I looked into the credentials of the therapist he was who was contacting him and it said she is a coordinator with the Surgeon Generals office. My husband sent his medical record to her mid December and she asked if he had a LOD and that’s the last time he spoke to her. I tried calling her but she isn’t returning my calls and her phone goes right to voicemail.

I know it’s difficult but these people are busy. Sound at least like they know of the situation and should return your call. The next step if it goes medical would that he gets a call from a PEBLO that would handle his case. After this is started his can track his case on AKO (Army Knowledge Online)
 
Having spoke to the First Sergant, I would then speak to the Commander. As for being "nice enough" there is nothing exceptional about doing what is required.
 
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Having spoke to the First Sergant, I would then speak to the Commander. As for being "nice enough" there is nothing exceptional about doing what is required.
Absolutely.

Army First Sergeant.
Among other duties:
  • Responsible for the health, welfare, morale, professional development, and training of the unit
  • Responsible for advising the Commander on enlisted matters, promotions, maintaining and enforcing standards, personnel accountability, standard compliance with regulations, monitoring and enforcing maintenance standards.

Ron
 
My husband attended a fitness for duty exam yesterday and he was found unfit for military duty and was told he would be medically discharged for a line of duty injury. I found the MSG who is supposed to be our point of contact while my husband was in the exam becuase he never called me back. He said my husbands LOD was completed back in August. I’m not sure why he couldn’t just return my calls but he said that my husband was not receiving incapacitation pay. They basically were paying him SLP by saying his doctors appointments were like “taking classes.” Apparently incapacitation pay is actually supposed to be active duty pay. That would have been nice when our gas was turned off and we were about to be on the streets with our children in November. The MSG said he would “look into” whether my husband can still request incapacitation pay since it was supposed to be initiated when the LOD was complete back in August. He was completely unapologetic and smirked at me through the entire discussion. If he puts as much effort into “looking into” my husbands INCAP as he did into retuning my phone call, I don’t have much faith anything will come of it. I think I am going to have to hire an attorney. My husband is not able to care for himself right now let alone fight for benefits he is entitled to receive. I don’t understand the process but it’s obvious that those who are supposed to be managing this are incompetent and don’t care what happens to my husband.
 
It is my understanding that a claim for incapacitation can be retroactive. I have never worked an incapacitation case.

Some important information pertaining to the pay is at this LINK <---

In view of your recent comments, recommend you contact the commander of his reserve unit and if he/she doesn't help you, go to the next level (i..e., battalion). You also have an option of contacting the offices of your elected representatives (the one time I used that option, I chose one of my senators (not state). My case involved the VA not paying retro VA comp for 30 months (but it turned out DFAS had never sent them the audit results).

If you feel your have already exhausted your options at the reserve unit, the elected representative would be a good option.

Good luck,
Ron
 
It is my understanding that a claim for incapacitation can be retroactive. I have never worked an incapacitation case.

Some important information pertaining to the pay is at this LINK <---

In view of your recent comments, recommend you contact the commander of his reserve unit and if he/she doesn't help you, go to the next level (i..e., battalion). You also have an option of contacting the offices of your elected representatives (the one time I used that option, I chose one of my senators (not state). My case involved the VA not paying retro VA comp for 30 months (but it turned out DFAS had never sent them the audit results).

If you feel your have already exhausted your options at the reserve unit, the elected representative would be a good option.

Good luck,
Ron
Hi Ron,

I just wanted to thank you for your assistance and the time you took to respond to my questions. I took your advise and moved up the chain of command all the way to the pentagon. They have been very helpful. They gave me an ombudsman to work with my husband’s unit to place him in the warrior transition unit. He has not taken the news of being unfit for duty well and this is probably the best opinion to ensure his safety for the time being. A Lieutenant Colonel there is also assisting in the INCAP retro. They also had the director of programs for the VA contact me and place me in their caregiver program. Hoping that this mess will be sorted out soon. Thank you so much!
 
Lag89

Thank you for the update. I am glad we could help.

Ron
 
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