Former Air National Guard Active Guard Reservist 15yrs AD time - non retained as AGR - Fit for duty non WWD

Russ35057

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Ok bear with me here because we have a long time line of events and issues: 4 Years Active Duty Air Force, and 11 Years as Guardsman on orders (10 of those in the AGR program)

Oct - Dec 2014 - was having issues with my feet and discomfort running and walking, and had to see my civilian PCM to get a referral to a podiatrist.

Feb 2015 - saw Podiatrist. Diagnosed with Bone spurs in the main big toe joints in both feet.

30 April 2015 - Surgery performed on both feet - 2 week convalescent leave only granted.

October 2015 - Deployment exercise to Canada on 16 October. 15 October I was notified my brother has had a severe medical emergency (Heart Attack) - status at the time was unknown. was told by my E8 superintendent at the time " tough luck. we don't have a backup ". I follow orders and go the next day. once in Canada the deployed commander and shirt had me sent on emergency leave to my brother's location with home station giving me crap the entire time. Brother passed away 5 days later. spent the next 2 weeks having services, and taking care of his affairs. was denied any further emergency leave, and was told to report for drill the first weekend in November. Shortly there after I'm Given a letter of counseling stating I was having a bad attitude, and there was a backup... This really infuriated me, but being a good NCO I shut up and took it.

Jan 2016 - No good progress on my feet, went to the podiatrist again. MRI completed on the left foot. Big toe joint had holes in cartilage - Joint Fusion with hardware completed. had to wait on the right foot.

Meanwhile the E8 keeps hitting me with paperwork at random, over and over again. for even just being human errors.

June 2016 - My father (My father and mother lived with me and my wife) is diagnosed with stage 3 stomach cancer, and the abuse from the E8 continues as well....

July 2016 - My father is diagnosed as terminal with maybe 6 months left. I ask my E8 about taking time off to spend with my dad before he dies... the answer I got was " you only work 9 hours a day... you have plenty of time...." Kicks to the teeth while getting a gut punch.... These things going on are putting me in to a depressive spiral, and no one cares. slowly not doing stuff I like to do. not paying attention to my wife... no desire at all.

October 2016 - Right foot same as left foot joint fusion big toe. start noticing back discomfort and put this with my civilian PCM. reported back to work again after only 2 weeks on con leave ( forgot to mention I was doing work from home during all convalescent leaves).

November 2016 - New Commander comes in which I thought would do something about the E8... nope they seem to have the same agendas... My father goes to the hospital before thanksgiving and passes away 5 days later. work on that loss.... 20 days emergency leave. I went back early to show them I was "With the Program" In reality I needed more time to grieve, but who cares what I needed...

Roughly Jan 2017 - Xray of spine - arthritis detected. things are getting really bad still getting the crap kicked out of me by the E8 and my supervisor. not sleeping well. anxiety every day, depressed mood.

Feb 2017 - Depression and anxiety getting so bad I go to my civilian dr. Dr wants to take me out of work for a month... I got 3 days and back to drill weekend.

March 2017 - Met with the flight nurse and document everything. everything gets sent to Guard Bureau Between Summer and October).... at this point I'm on Lexipro for the depression. Still getting beat up

Oct 2017 - Guard Bureau States Fit For Duty, but not WWD ALC Code C-2. Meanwhile my right foot hasn't fused correctly.

Feb 2018 - right Foot big toe surgery again this time plate and 5 screws inserted. 1 month con leave given this time (still working from home).

March 2018 - Return to work. Things are not better there. Received notification from my commander that my AGR tour is ending October 15, 2018. 15 Years active down the toilet.... now on Wellbutrin XL as well as lexipro, and the beatings continue.... I feel like I was not even sent to an actual med board and was just evaluated by NGB/SG, and declared Fit for duty.

June 2018 - since Meds change, foot complications, sleeping issues and back problems NGB has now determined I am again Fit for Duty now with an ALC C-3 Code. I was already working on my VA package since I now was going to lose my full time employment, and selling our home since it was not Feasible to stay at the location (High Cost of living). decided to look for employment in the state we live in now which is a lot cheaper to live.

June 2018 - Aug 2018 - E8 retires, but the paperwork from the supervisor and commander keeps piling up.... Psyciatric states Major Depressive Disorder, General anxiety Disorder, and sleep disorder. That goes in my files. Checked with medical about a DDForm 2697 that should be completed with the servicing Military treatment facility before coming off AGR. I got told "That doesn't apply here. you are just coming off orders only" I checked the AFI. I should of had a final medical exam....

October 2018 - Got my DDForm 214 for May 1 2008 to October 15 2019, and move my records for the VA to my new State of residence. work with the Veterans service office to get my claim going. Many things were done improperly. even the VA agreed!

November - Dec 2018 - Report back to the unit for my first quarterly UTA. still constantly in pain, depressed, and having anxiety attacks having to go back to what I would call " the scene of the crime ", and I had to pay out of pocket on a credit card to even be there.

Dec 2018 - VA Rating awarded - 30% Occular Migraines, 30% for the depression and anxiety, 30% for Bilateral Plantar Fashiatious (spelled wrong) with corrective Hardware, 20% for L4-L5 and L5-S1 Degenerative disc disorder DDD done by X-rays and exam. 70% VA disability, but now have to do Drills in points only status.

Feb-March 2019 - Report for my Quarterly UTA - Supposed to be my last since my ETS was 25 Apr 2019. 17 Good Years for the guard total. I was going to punch out, and everything that was going on I knew my CO wanted me out, but started doing BS paperwork that she wanted me to stay, but I was electing to get out. The wing Command chief saw me during my out-processing, and wouldn't approve my separation, and from the Shirt on down stated retain but cross train out of that office (Toxic environment). since I'm doing this now all for points only and fully out of pocket i reenlisted for 1 more year, and see what happens.

April 2019 - VA Home sleep study done - I have OSA (Obstructive sleep apnea) Requiring CPAP Use. file that with my guard unit, also had an MRI of my spine, results - ,l1-l2, l2-l3, Mild facet degenerative hypertrophic change with ligamentum flavum buckling, L3-L4 - Disc space height and signal intensity are well-maintained. Minimal retrolisthesis of L3 relative to L4. There is mild facet degenerative hypertrophic change and ligamentum flavum buckling. There is no disc bulge or disc protrusion. The neural foramen are patent. There is no spinal stenosis. L5-S1 There is mild disc space narrowing and disc desiccation compatible with degenerative disc disease. There is broad-based disc bulge/osteophyte complex at L5-S1 most prominent centrally
which abuts the thecal sac and causes minimal contour deformity. There is moderate facet hypertrophy and ligamentum flavum buckling. There is no spinal stenosis. There is mild neuroforaminal narrowing on the left. There is moderate neural foraminal narrowing on the right with contact of the L5 nerve root by the enlarged facets. No impingement. Additionally, there is contact of the bilateral S1 nerve roots by the disc bulge in the lateral recess, without impingement.

My profile for my current ALC C-3 expires in June, and I don't know what's going to happen with this new information if it will get swept under the rug again by NGB and medical or what. I have also filed an IG complaint in this matter due to my commander's impact statement saying I can do my job in garrison, but my 2017 and 2018 EPR's state substandard duty performance, which is in complete contradiction. I know I got hosed in all this. Hopefully with the new issues maybe I'll be brought up to an actual MEB now... IDK, but this has definitely maxxed out my resilency! I'm in pain everyday and tired due to all these conditions and issues. sorry for the long post, but this is the situation. Thanks for reading. if you can help please do!
 

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I moved it...let me know if it works for you.

Ron
 

Russ35057

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I moved it...let me know if it works for you.

Ron
Thanks. I hope someone can help. I feel like I was forced off my tour and bs ensued... Right now I have to go to a new C&P with the VA for the sleep apena and the new MRI on my back that has been getting worse. I don't even feel better laying down. Just tons of stress and it don't help me in my new civilian job either. I feel like I was just crapped on....
 

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I am so sorry to hear about your journey. It is unfortunately one many reserve component soldiers have endured since 9/11. You could send your story to the Armed Forces Services...or Can you get a hold of someone in the National Guard Union...they may be able to help...
 

Russ35057

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I am so sorry to hear about your journey. It is unfortunately one many reserve component soldiers have endured since 9/11. You could send your story to the Armed Forces Services...or Can you get a hold of someone in the National Guard Union...they may be able to help...
The union only applies to Federal Dual Status Technicians... AGR's do not have that... Which is the joke of the AGR program.... Ain't Got Rights
 

Russ35057

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Ok bear with me here because we have a long time line of events and issues: 4 Years Active Duty Air Force, and 11 Years as Guardsman on orders (10 of those in the AGR program)

Oct - Dec 2014 - was having issues with my feet and discomfort running and walking, and had to see my civilian PCM to get a referral to a podiatrist.

Feb 2015 - saw Podiatrist. Diagnosed with Bone spurs in the main big toe joints in both feet.

30 April 2015 - Surgery performed on both feet - 2 week convalescent leave only granted.

October 2015 - Deployment exercise to Canada on 16 October. 15 October I was notified my brother has had a severe medical emergency (Heart Attack) - status at the time was unknown. was told by my E8 superintendent at the time " tough luck. we don't have a backup ". I follow orders and go the next day. once in Canada the deployed commander and shirt had me sent on emergency leave to my brother's location with home station giving me crap the entire time. Brother passed away 5 days later. spent the next 2 weeks having services, and taking care of his affairs. was denied any further emergency leave, and was told to report for drill the first weekend in November. Shortly there after I'm Given a letter of counseling stating I was having a bad attitude, and there was a backup... This really infuriated me, but being a good NCO I shut up and took it.

Jan 2016 - No good progress on my feet, went to the podiatrist again. MRI completed on the left foot. Big toe joint had holes in cartilage - Joint Fusion with hardware completed. had to wait on the right foot.

Meanwhile the E8 keeps hitting me with paperwork at random, over and over again. for even just being human errors.

June 2016 - My father (My father and mother lived with me and my wife) is diagnosed with stage 3 stomach cancer, and the abuse from the E8 continues as well....

July 2016 - My father is diagnosed as terminal with maybe 6 months left. I ask my E8 about taking time off to spend with my dad before he dies... the answer I got was " you only work 9 hours a day... you have plenty of time...." Kicks to the teeth while getting a gut punch.... These things going on are putting me in to a depressive spiral, and no one cares. slowly not doing stuff I like to do. not paying attention to my wife... no desire at all.

October 2016 - Right foot same as left foot joint fusion big toe. start noticing back discomfort and put this with my civilian PCM. reported back to work again after only 2 weeks on con leave ( forgot to mention I was doing work from home during all convalescent leaves).

November 2016 - New Commander comes in which I thought would do something about the E8... nope they seem to have the same agendas... My father goes to the hospital before thanksgiving and passes away 5 days later. work on that loss.... 20 days emergency leave. I went back early to show them I was "With the Program" In reality I needed more time to grieve, but who cares what I needed...

Roughly Jan 2017 - Xray of spine - arthritis detected. things are getting really bad still getting the crap kicked out of me by the E8 and my supervisor. not sleeping well. anxiety every day, depressed mood.

Feb 2017 - Depression and anxiety getting so bad I go to my civilian dr. Dr wants to take me out of work for a month... I got 3 days and back to drill weekend.

March 2017 - Met with the flight nurse and document everything. everything gets sent to Guard Bureau Between Summer and October).... at this point I'm on Lexipro for the depression. Still getting beat up

Oct 2017 - Guard Bureau States Fit For Duty, but not WWD ALC Code C-2. Meanwhile my right foot hasn't fused correctly.

Feb 2018 - right Foot big toe surgery again this time plate and 5 screws inserted. 1 month con leave given this time (still working from home).

March 2018 - Return to work. Things are not better there. Received notification from my commander that my AGR tour is ending October 15, 2018. 15 Years active down the toilet.... now on Wellbutrin XL as well as lexipro, and the beatings continue.... I feel like I was not even sent to an actual med board and was just evaluated by NGB/SG, and declared Fit for duty.

June 2018 - since Meds change, foot complications, sleeping issues and back problems NGB has now determined I am again Fit for Duty now with an ALC C-3 Code. I was already working on my VA package since I now was going to lose my full time employment, and selling our home since it was not Feasible to stay at the location (High Cost of living). decided to look for employment in the state we live in now which is a lot cheaper to live.

June 2018 - Aug 2018 - E8 retires, but the paperwork from the supervisor and commander keeps piling up.... Psyciatric states Major Depressive Disorder, General anxiety Disorder, and sleep disorder. That goes in my files. Checked with medical about a DDForm 2697 that should be completed with the servicing Military treatment facility before coming off AGR. I got told "That doesn't apply here. you are just coming off orders only" I checked the AFI. I should of had a final medical exam....

October 2018 - Got my DDForm 214 for May 1 2008 to October 15 2019, and move my records for the VA to my new State of residence. work with the Veterans service office to get my claim going. Many things were done improperly. even the VA agreed!

November - Dec 2018 - Report back to the unit for my first quarterly UTA. still constantly in pain, depressed, and having anxiety attacks having to go back to what I would call " the scene of the crime ", and I had to pay out of pocket on a credit card to even be there.

Dec 2018 - VA Rating awarded - 30% Occular Migraines, 30% for the depression and anxiety, 30% for Bilateral Plantar Fashiatious (spelled wrong) with corrective Hardware, 20% for L4-L5 and L5-S1 Degenerative disc disorder DDD done by X-rays and exam. 70% VA disability, but now have to do Drills in points only status.

Feb-March 2019 - Report for my Quarterly UTA - Supposed to be my last since my ETS was 25 Apr 2019. 17 Good Years for the guard total. I was going to punch out, and everything that was going on I knew my CO wanted me out, but started doing BS paperwork that she wanted me to stay, but I was electing to get out. The wing Command chief saw me during my out-processing, and wouldn't approve my separation, and from the Shirt on down stated retain but cross train out of that office (Toxic environment). since I'm doing this now all for points only and fully out of pocket i reenlisted for 1 more year, and see what happens.

April 2019 - VA Home sleep study done - I have OSA (Obstructive sleep apnea) Requiring CPAP Use. file that with my guard unit, also had an MRI of my spine, results - ,l1-l2, l2-l3, Mild facet degenerative hypertrophic change with ligamentum flavum buckling, L3-L4 - Disc space height and signal intensity are well-maintained. Minimal retrolisthesis of L3 relative to L4. There is mild facet degenerative hypertrophic change and ligamentum flavum buckling. There is no disc bulge or disc protrusion. The neural foramen are patent. There is no spinal stenosis. L5-S1 There is mild disc space narrowing and disc desiccation compatible with degenerative disc disease. There is broad-based disc bulge/osteophyte complex at L5-S1 most prominent centrally
which abuts the thecal sac and causes minimal contour deformity. There is moderate facet hypertrophy and ligamentum flavum buckling. There is no spinal stenosis. There is mild neuroforaminal narrowing on the left. There is moderate neural foraminal narrowing on the right with contact of the L5 nerve root by the enlarged facets. No impingement. Additionally, there is contact of the bilateral S1 nerve roots by the disc bulge in the lateral recess, without impingement.

My profile for my current ALC C-3 expires in June, and I don't know what's going to happen with this new information if it will get swept under the rug again by NGB and medical or what. I have also filed an IG complaint in this matter due to my commander's impact statement saying I can do my job in garrison, but my 2017 and 2018 EPR's state substandard duty performance, which is in complete contradiction. I know I got hosed in all this. Hopefully with the new issues maybe I'll be brought up to an actual MEB now... IDK, but this has definitely maxxed out my resilency! I'm in pain everyday and tired due to all these conditions and issues. sorry for the long post, but this is the situation. Thanks for reading. if you can help please do!
Oh and the 2 EPRs are not official since ARPC will not accept them. Keep getting rejected...
 

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Hi Russ, Just trying to sort out your situation to see if i can better guide you...were you on Reserve Component, Title 10, 12301(d) orders or something like those orders, then dropped off those orders or will be dropping off those orders with unresolved line of duty injuries...
 

Russ35057

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Hi Russ, Just trying to sort out your situation to see if i can better guide you...were you on Reserve Component, Title 10, 12301(d) orders or something like those orders, then dropped off those orders or will be dropping off those orders with unresolved line of duty injuries...
Title 32 Active guard reserve perm. I was released by commanders decision after 10 years on said orders. Title 32 U.S.C. 502(f)
 

Ocean

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So that is a State order...and it is my understanding the NG Union covers soldiers on Title 32 orders. I believe Their are avenues to return to AD ( not sure) but i will look up Title 10 12301(h) orders. Do you have unresolved line of duty injuries that require an MEB or has your State referred you to a AD MEB Board...you may have answered this, so sorry if i missed it...Also you may require an attny ( you have) a lot on your plate...Jason Perry, founder of this site might be someone you can reach out to.. i will get back with you on what i find out.
 

Russ35057

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I'm sure one of the conditions at least requires an MEB. There is a few. They kept calling everything a waiver. These are not waiverable issues.
 

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No MEB done... Found Fit For Duty Twice by National Guard Bureau... Never even got to the MEB PEB stage... AD never saw me.
 

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Update just got done with the c&p went in for the upgrade back issues and sleep apnea... Got 3 more conditions.... Spondylitis, loss of sensation and reflex in right leg, and the flavium buckling from l2-s1 which is apparently really bad... So whenever this gets done I'll have to give this back to the Air National Guard unit and see if this gets swept under the rug as well.
 

Ocean

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This is a little long so bear with me.
i guess the question is, what are you looking to do. Return to AD for a meb/peb..return to AD for a short period of time for treatment and care or return to AD for treatment and care then med board?
AGR soldiers can be brought on AD to a WTU as Compo 1 then released if found fit. If found fit, they return to active status and are re-instated to the AGR program of their State. If not fit for duty, the soldier/ airman should be retained on AD and processed through a MEB/PEB.
For Army NG the usual course of action is; AGR on Title 32 orders are eligible for assignment into a WTU under title 10 status. Your state medical officials validate the soldiers illness/injury. The State then sends to soldier to the closet MTF via 15 day TDY for evaluation. If warranted a WTU assignment your state should initiate the packet for Medcon orders. Medcon orders would bring you from Title 32 to Compo 1 AD Soldier. The NG also has a program called RCMC and can publish 12301(h) orders for 179 days at a time. The program was created because NG soldiers on AD orders for grater then 30 days and sustained line of duty injuries that were unresolved at order end date were not being extended on AD. RCMC was supposed to be a solution to this as well as INCAP. Under the RCMC program The soldier remains at home for care but i am not sure if it provides cover if going through a MEB.... i would try the Warrior Care Policy Agency in DC and speak with someone their...i would also reach out again to the NG Union.
 

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Also on this site go to Resources and read

DoDI 1332.45 RETENTION DETERMINATIONS FOR NON-DEPLOYABLE SERVICE MEMBERS
 

Russ35057

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I did and have the references copied... I know there is something dirty in this situation though. Someone had it out for me and wanted to ruin my life..... And they did
 

Ocean

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Your chronology is good, organize your medical documents in the order received... and maintain these in a binder for easy access. Believe it or not many of us have been in the same hell...it is not fare, its is very painful emotionally and 10x worse when you are wounded, ill or injured. The Air-force has a wounded warrior program you can access. Google Wounded Warrior Policy and look at the manual on their web site. You can access it on line, it also has points of contact as well. Do not sign anything until you understand your rights...i know a Major who had success going through their Senators, Congressman and Assemblyman/woman in their State other not so lucky.
 

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Didn't think I qualify for wounded warrior. Didn't happen in combat. And I'm still ill too... I doesn't end. I'm on Zoloft now for the anxiety and depression... Kinda helps, but I still dread when I go back for quarterly drills (which I have to go in 2 weeks). @Jason Perry can you look my crap over and tell me what you think?
 
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Air Force Wounded Warrior Program
Please go to this web site. Ask to speak with a Recovery Care Coordinator ( RCC) or AFW care coordinator. The Warrior Care Policy office in DC implemented these two programs specifically to help wounded, ill and injured soldiers and their families. The programs are for all service members who have sustained Combat & Non combat injuries that carry a 50% or greater disability rating...the rating comes from the VBA & Military Meb/Peb.
Army is AW2, they also have RCC...
 
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