Non Duty DES

ammotracker

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Should I be concerned that my profile states" member has been identified with a non-duty condition that may not meet retention" and "must be processed through the non-duty DES to continue service"? Factor V lieden, anxiety, chronic narcotic use prescribed by a pain management specialist are what I think the conditions are but I am not positive. I have 19 years in as AGR and am not able to deploy. Is there a reason to be concerned with the specification of non duty DES and also will AFPC review and rate ALL of my conditions? Obviously, I will be taking the max time for everything to ensure I make my 20 AD. Thanks.
 

Jolly cheese

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I don’t think you need to worry but make sure it reads correct. I swear they default to non-duty unless you challenge them on it. If you have been active or AGR for 19 year than most things are Duty related. If you got ran over by as an AGR it would be “Duty related”.

Now drugs is a tricky one. I know they don’t give LODs for drugs, but they should rate the main diagnosis.
 

brianmatt31

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Looks like your in a good time frame. Just make sure you get to 50% or more so you'll get concurrent. At least 30% DoD gets your medical retirement, meaning Tricare for Life but turn in everything and anything you think you might have a problem with, like knee conditions or other type of things.
 

Jolly cheese

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On second thought, if it’s not correct, get it corrected. Are they all duty related? Where they diagnosed while you were an AGR?
 

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An MEB attorney recently stated something to the effect that there has been an uptick in in AF reserve/guards NILOD determinations that are inaccurate. You may have to fit the good fit to get the determination changed.
 

Maya

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Yup, mine says same thing. I'm AGR 18 years. I take SSRI, depression, and hip issues. I'll let ya know what I find out whenever that is.
 

Padgettra

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Maya, What is the rule for AGRs? I thought once you reached the 18 YOS that you were in sanctuary and guaranteed a 20 year retirement as long as the separation was not due to "cause"? I am not saying that the non-IDES is right, yet at least no matter what the outcome you will get the 20 year mark and retirement. I guess if the rated items were greater than 50%, then it would be "game on" because it would be more of a benefit for you to fight the decision. I would explore all options, of course. Best of luck
 

Jolly cheese

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What I found. Might check if it still valid, but if you are physically unfit you can be separated.

Active Duty Sanctuary is any ANG, AFR officer or enlisted member who attains 18, but less than 20, years of Total Active Federal Military Service (TAFMS) must remain on active duty unless they voluntarily separate, medically disqualified for continued service, or is separated or discharged for cause.
Title 10 United States Code (USC), § 12686(a) and 12646(e) establish an active duty (AD) retirement sanctuary for members of all Air Reserve Components (ARCs).
 

Padgettra

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So, yes ARNG AGR can be separated for medical reasons once the process is completed, so I guess it depends on the medical reason and what percentage that the Service rates the conditions. I guess it is possible to come out better, or worse, than a 20 year AGR retirement. All depends on ratings and no one has a crystal ball for the future.

NGR 600-5 • 21 September 2015 current from the NGB Publication site:
6-2. Medical separation
a. AGR Soldiers being processed through the Disability Evaluation System (DES) or medical board proceedings will not be released from FTNGD, or retired from an AGR status until final disposition by medical authorities. Final disposition is the receipt of documentation that closes the medical case (for example, notice of return to duty, medical separation, or withdrawal from the DES process by Soldier).
b. AR 635-40 will be used to separate or retire AGR Soldiers as a result of physical disabilities. Separation documents will be prepared by the servicing transition center.
 
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