Possible ratings for hip?

seanegalloway

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Hello, I am new to this forum and was wondering if anyone could give me any insight on my potential rating for my hip. I am in the IDES process and its all moving pretty quick. Thanks for anything you can give me.

LEFT HIP
[] All Normal [X] Abnormal or outside of normal range [] Unable to test [] Not indicated If “Unable to test” or “Not indicated,” please explain:
Flexion (0-125 degrees) 0 to 20 degrees Extension (0-30 degrees) 0 to 10 degrees Abduction (0-45 degrees) 0 to 25 degrees Adduction (0-25 degrees) 0 to 10 degrees External Rotation (0-60 degrees) 0 to 30 degrees Internal Rotation (0-40 degrees) 0 to 20 degrees
Is adduction limited such that the Veteran cannot cross legs? [X] Yes [] No
If ROM is outside of "normal" range, but is normal for the Veteran (for reasons other than a hip condition, such as age, body habitus, neurologic disease), please describe:
If abnormal, does the range of motion itself contribute to a functional loss? [X] Yes [] No If yes, please explain: This degree of loss of ROM, especially flexion, significantly interferes with most weight bearing activities.
Description of Pain (select the best response): [] No pain noted on exam [] Pain noted on exam on rest/non-movement [] Pain noted on exam but does not result in/cause functional loss [X] Pain noted on examination and causes functional loss If noted on examination, which ROM exhibited pain (select all that apply): [X] Flexion [X] Extension [X] Abduction [X] Adduction [X] External rotation [X] Internal rotation
Is there objective evidence of localized tenderness or pain on palpation of the joint or associated soft tissue? [X] Yes [] No If yes, describe. Include location, severity, and relationship to condition(s). Location: Pubic bone and left adductor complex Severity: Moderate Relationship: Athletic Pubalgia
Is there evidence of pain with weight bearing? [X] Yes [] No
Is there objective evidence of crepitus? [] Yes [X] No
LEFT HIP
Is the Veteran able to perform repetitive-use testing with at least three repetitions? [] Yes [X] No If yes, perform repetitive-use testing.
If no, provide reason: Unable to perform repetitive-use testing with at least three repetitions as it is too painful.
LEFT HIP
Is the Veteran being examined immediately after repetitive use over time? [] Yes [X] No If the examination is not being conducted immediately after repetitive use over time: [X] The examination is medically consistent with the Veteran’s statements describing functional loss with repetitive use over time. [] The examination is medically inconsistent with the Veteran’s statements describing functional loss with repetitive use over time. (please explain) [] The examination is neither medically consistent or inconsistent with the Veteran’s statements describing functional loss with repetitive use over time. If the examination is medically inconsistent with the Veteran’s statements of functional loss, please explain:
Does pain, weakness, fatigability or incoordination significantly limit functional ability with repeated use over a period of time? [X] Yes [] No [] Unable to say without mere speculation If unable to say without mere speculation, please explain:
Select all factors that cause this functional loss: [] N/A [X] Pain [] Fatigue [] Weakness [] Lack of endurance [] Incoordination
Are you able to describe in terms of Range of Motion? [X] Yes [] No If no, please describe:
Flexion (0-125 degrees): 0 to 20 degrees Extension (0-30 degrees): 0 to 10 degrees Abduction (0-45 degrees): 0 to 25 degrees Adduction (0-25 degrees): 0 to 10 degrees Is post-test adduction limited such that the Veteran cannot cross legs? [X] Yes [] No External Rotation (0-60 degrees): 0 to 30 degrees Internal Rotation (0-40 degrees): 0 to 20 degrees
LEFT HIP
Is the examination being conducted during a flare up? [] Yes [X] No If the examination is not being conducted during a flare up: [X] The examination is medically consistent with the Veteran’s statements describing functional loss during flare up. [] The examination is medically inconsistent with the Veteran’s statements describing functional loss during flare up. (please explain) [] The examination is neither medically consistent or inconsistent with the Veteran’s statements describing functional loss during flare up. If the examination is medically inconsistent with the Veteran’s statements of functional loss, please explain:
Does pain, weakness, fatigability or incoordination significantly limit functional ability with flare ups? [X] Yes [] No [] Unable to say without mere speculation If unable to say without mere speculation, please explain:
Select all factors that cause this functional loss: [] N/A [X] Pain [] Fatigue [] Weakness [] Lack of endurance [] Incoordination
Are you able to describe in terms of Range of Motion? [X] Yes [] No If no, please describe:
Flexion (0-125 degrees): 0 to 20 degrees Extension (0-30 degrees): 0 to 10 degrees Abduction (0-45 degrees): 0 to 25 degrees
Adduction (0-25 degrees): 0 to 10 degrees Is post-test adduction limited such that the Veteran cannot cross legs? [X] Yes [] No External Rotation (0-60 degrees): 0 to 30 degrees Internal Rotation (0-40 degrees): 0 to 20 degrees

LEFT SIDE In addition to those addressed above, are there additional contributing factors of disability? Please select all that apply and describe: [] None [X] Less movement than normal (due to ankylosis, limitation or blocking, adhesions, tendon-tie-ups, contracted scars, etc.) [] More movement than normal (from flail joints, resections, nonunion of fractures, relaxation of ligaments, etc.) [] Weakened movement (due to muscle injury, disease or injury of peripheral nerves, divided or lengthened tendons, etc.) [] Swelling [] Deformity [] Atrophy of disuse [] Instability of station [X] Disturbance of locomotion [X] Interference with sitting [X] Interference with standing [] Other, describe: Please describe additional contributing factors of disability: The hip pain does interfere with running and walking, he has pain with sitting and has to keep the leg somewhat straightened, and the loss of ROM itself does interfere with activities as noted above.
LEFT HIP Flexion/ Extension
Rate Strength
Is there a reduction in muscle strength?
If yes, is the reduction entirely due to the claimed condition in the Diagnosis section?
If no (the reduction is not entirely due to the claimed condition), provide rationale:
Flexion 4 /5 [X] Yes [] No [X] Yes [] NoExtension 4 /5 Abduction 4 /5
4B. Does the Veteran have muscle atrophy? [] Yes [X] No If yes, is the muscle atrophy due to the claimed condition in the diagnosis section? [] Yes [] No If no, provide rationale:
For any muscle atrophy due to a diagnosis listed in Section 1, indicate side and specific location of atrophy, providing measurements in centimeters of normal side and corresponding atrophied side, measured at maximum muscle bulk. Location of muscle atrophy: [] Right lower extremity (specify location of measurement such as "10cm above or below elbow”):
Circumference of more normal side: cm Circumference of atrophied side: cm [] Left lower extremity (specify location of measurement such as "10cm above or below elbow"):
Circumference of more normal side: cm Circumference of atrophied side: cm
4C. Comments, if any: The loss of strength noted on the measurements is more from giveaway due to pain and not due to actual loss of muscular function.
SECTION XII - FUNCTIONALIMPACT NOTE: Provide the impact of only the diagnosed condition(s), without consideration of the impact of other medical conditions or factors, such as age.
12. Regardless of the Veteran’s current employment status, do the condition(s) listed in the diagnosis section impact his or her ability to perform any type of occupational task (such as standing, walking, lifting, sitting, etc.)? [X] Yes [] No If yes, describe the functional impact of each condition, providing one or more examples: The hip pain can significantly interfere with the veteran's ability to walk, climb, squat and run. Any work activities that required such activities would likely be difficult for this veteran.
SECTION XIII - REMARKS 13. Remarks, if any: The condition of Athletic Pubalgia is an inflammation of the insertion of the muscles at the site of the pubic bone. The hip flexors are involved. Any movement of the leg causes pain as it engages these muscles and bone structures, all of which are inflamed. The rotator cuff in the shoulder is nothing but muscle and frequently causes a significant loss of range of motion. There is no other evidence to warrant any additional diagnoses than those already provided for the claimed left hip pain / injury (meb/referred); right hip condition; muscle spasm of the legs at this time.
Correia Criteria – Left Hip A. Is there objective evidence of pain when the left hip is used in non-weight bearing? [] Yes [X] No objective evidence of pain on non-weight bearing.
B. Perform passive range of motion for the left hip and provide the ROM values or select “Same as active ROM.” [] Same as active ROM.
Hip and Thigh Conditions Disability Benefits Questionnaire VA Form 21-0960M-8
[] Cannot be performed or is not medically appropriate [X] Different than active ROM. Flexion (0-125 degrees): 0 to 40 degrees Extension (0-30 degrees): 0 to 15 degrees Abduction (0-45 degrees): 0 to 25 degrees Adduction (0-25 degrees): 0 to 10 degrees External Rotation (0-60 degrees): 0 to 35 degrees Internal Rotation (0-40 degrees): 0 to 30 degrees
C. If objective evidence of pain is present on passive ROM, please specify the plane(s) of ROM (flexion, extension, etc.) involved below, state same as active ROM, or state no objective evidence of pain present. [] No objective evidence of pain on passive range of motion testing [X] Same as active ROM. [] Pain was present only on passive ROM or pain was different on passive ROM and in the following planes: Plane(s) involved:
 

seanegalloway

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Sorry I should've updated this but it didn't get any traction so I didn't bother. I was rated 40 percent cor flexion,10 percent for abduction/adduction, and 10 for internal rotation. The reason being I was limited to a rateable degree so the rating went from where my pain started per the Deluca and Mitchell rule. I recieved 100 percent overall from the va and retired on the 1st of March.
 

seanegalloway

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No I should've clarified I looked back at my ratings to give you an accurate response I got 100 overall from the va with other conditions added. My hip was rated 40% under code 5252 (flexion) and 20% 5253 (Limitation of Abduction). Do you have your C&P exam results back yet?
 

Protector_of_the_guardian

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Inital ROM

Right Hip
Flexion 0-90
Extension 0-25
Abduction 0-40
Adduction 0-20
External Rotation 0-55
Internal Rotation 0-35

Pain on ALL examinations for hips
Crepatius Yes

Left Hip
Flexion 0-80
Extension 0-25
Abduction 0-45
Adduction 0-20
External rotation 0-55
Internal Rotation 0-35

Pain on ALL examinations

Flare UPs ROM:
Was exam conducted during a flare up? [No] (I'm constantly in pain) so thats wrong
Right Hip
flexion 0-70
Extension 0-20
Abduction 0-45
Adduction 0-15
External Rotation 0-70
Internal Rotation 0-30

Flare UPs ROM:
Was exam conducted during a flare up? [No] (I'm constantly in pain)
Left Hip
Flexion 0-60
Extension 0-20
Abduction 0-35
Adduction 0-15
External Rotation 0-50
Internal Rotation 0-30

When I did theses I was laying down on my back and laying down on my back extending my feet straight out causes excruciating pain and he told me to move my leg out up down yada yada three times n stop and I remember BARELY moving so how is it theses ROMs are so high?? How TF do they grade theses?


Lastly my PEBLO keeps telling me I can't add on my Migraines for a DOD disability because they meet retention standards because I never had a profile for them but yet I religiously see a Neurologist, take daily medications and when I have a migraine which is about 2 times a week for 3 years now I cant function at all and the verbiage from 40-501 is: g. Migraine, tension, or cluster headaches, when manifested by frequent incapacitating attacks. Yet I have the proof.
 

seanegalloway

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here is a link for how they rate the hip and thigh and sadly its all ROM based mine is a bit different since it was a muscle/ligament tear that affected the ROM. If it is limited to a rateable degree then it is rated by where the pain starts. If it is not limited to a rateable degree then you get the minimum rating of 10. I don't want to give you definitive answers but if it is as bad as you say then i would get ready to try and get a second opinion. I was instructed by my attorney to go to physical therapy and have a ROM test done through them as well to sipute the findings in case that happened to me. Also if it differs then submit it with your claim to the VA as evidence.

Military Disability Ratings for Hip and Thigh Conditions
 

seanegalloway

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That only applies if your condition is to a rateable degree and to find the rateable degree you would have to look on that site I posted in the last comment. Based off of your rom findings it looks like you'll get the minimum rating of 10 for the hip and that's why its crucial you get to physical therapy to get contradicting evidence for your possible appeal. There are other factors that can come into play but joints are rated off of limitation of motion. Look up the deluca and Mitchell rule for more info on the rateable degree option. It took me months to understand what my rating meant and I only found it through hours upon hours of research.
 

Protector_of_the_guardian

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Yeah Ive been researching all day. Im just confused on mine because my referring condition is bilateral coxial blah blah post fracture 2014 then i have bilateral hips and his diagnoses for the hips was FAI so does all this get bundled into one rating lol the site doesnt really say.
 

seanegalloway

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All your disqualifying conditions will get rated separately unless they are connected. Like your hip will be one rating even though it is 3 separate codes for ROM but with the minimum rated for pain it will not be 10 for each direction there is pain since that is not allowed under pyramiding. The militarydisabilitymadeeasy.com site will give you a ton of information if you go to the home page it will just take a lot of reading. Lol that's the hard part and when I was going through the process I found that nobody else really knew either so I got mixed advice from every which way and that's why the ratings always seemed so skewed to me. Once I understood how the VA rated it made sense. You have to be you're own advocate and do a ton of research to understand the VA.
 

Protector_of_the_guardian

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I feel like my examiner screwed me. Were yours done laying down? I remember him saying move hip this way ok now repeat three times n stop n he measured and I remember hardly even moving far
 

seanegalloway

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I would definitely take the physical therapy route and have them do a rom test on you with a goineometer. I would also consult with your meb attorney he would know the proper action to take.
 
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