Referred to MEB from getting P3 profile

LBK

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Hello all,

I’ve been combing through the forum most of the day and figured I’d throw my situation out there and see if there’s a recommended route to take or at least some advice.

Currently in my 10th year of the Army Reserves and have been battling chronic shoulder pain for the last 3. I deployed recently, aggravated the shoulder pain/issues, and received an LOD. After I returned home I jumped into documenting every through the VA right away and received an 80% rating for my shoulders, BH, and tinnitus.

In the last 3 years of having shoulder pain I’ve had plenty of physical therapy thanks to my civilian, military, and VA practitioners with no progress since surgery isn’t an option. A few weeks ago the VA finally threw in the towel and signed off on a packet for getting a P3 profile. Once the army signed off on it I saw they gave me a “deadman’s profile” where I can’t perform any of the 3 APFT events. I’m assuming that’s because the practitioner who filled out my profile packet limited me to lifting no more than 25 pounds with the primarily bad shoulder.

So now I’ve been referred to the MEB process and have been told to choose between IDES or LDES. With my current 80% rating through the VA should I pursue the LDES to try and retain the rating and possibly a quicker decision? If I went with IDES I’m not concerned with being re-evaluated since I have plenty of paperwork supporting my rating decisions, but I’d be more concerned with how time consuming it would be since it was a nightmare going through QTC for the initial claims through the VA.

My main objective here is to preserve time in since I can’t take a PT test with the current P3 profile and am flagged from failing an APFT when my shoulders first started having issues. Would it be worthwhile to try and get a summary of care(I believe is what it’s called) to try and raise the weight restriction on my Profile so I can at least (hopefully) do the 2 mile run? Or would that potentially affect the MEB and my VA rating if I chose IDES. But also if the found that they want to discharge me, I think I’d be fine with that since I don’t believe with my MOS/unit I could get enough retirement points to make it worthwhile staying in.

If my post is confusing and needs editing, I apologize. I’m not good at explaining this through text
 
LDES is not always faster. Sometimes longer. I also feel like with IDES you are evaluated by civilian doctors. LDES it’s just military doctors. IDES could open up your VA claim, conditions could be reduced or increased. You could also add more conditions. Just don’t have a open VA claim if you start IDES. It can cause delays.
 
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Hello all,

I’ve been combing through the forum most of the day and figured I’d throw my situation out there and see if there’s a recommended route to take or at least some advice.

Currently in my 10th year of the Army Reserves and have been battling chronic shoulder pain for the last 3. I deployed recently, aggravated the shoulder pain/issues, and received an LOD. After I returned home I jumped into documenting every through the VA right away and received an 80% rating for my shoulders, BH, and tinnitus.

In the last 3 years of having shoulder pain I’ve had plenty of physical therapy thanks to my civilian, military, and VA practitioners with no progress since surgery isn’t an option. A few weeks ago the VA finally threw in the towel and signed off on a packet for getting a P3 profile. Once the army signed off on it I saw they gave me a “deadman’s profile” where I can’t perform any of the 3 APFT events. I’m assuming that’s because the practitioner who filled out my profile packet limited me to lifting no more than 25 pounds with the primarily bad shoulder.

So now I’ve been referred to the MEB process and have been told to choose between IDES or LDES. With my current 80% rating through the VA should I pursue the LDES to try and retain the rating and possibly a quicker decision? If I went with IDES I’m not concerned with being re-evaluated since I have plenty of paperwork supporting my rating decisions, but I’d be more concerned with how time consuming it would be since it was a nightmare going through QTC for the initial claims through the VA.

My main objective here is to preserve time in since I can’t take a PT test with the current P3 profile and am flagged from failing an APFT when my shoulders first started having issues. Would it be worthwhile to try and get a summary of care(I believe is what it’s called) to try and raise the weight restriction on my Profile so I can at least (hopefully) do the 2 mile run? Or would that potentially affect the MEB and my VA rating if I chose IDES. But also if the found that they want to discharge me, I think I’d be fine with that since I don’t believe with my MOS/unit I could get enough retirement points to make it worthwhile staying in.

If my post is confusing and needs editing, I apologize. I’m not good at explaining this through text
IDES is always better since you have a lot more protections and the PEB MUST use the VA ratings in IDES to be your DOD rating for unfitting conditions. LDES is the old system and they can rate you whatever they want regardless of how the VA rated that condition. You do need to do the C&P exams all over again but there isn't anything to fear if your conditions are the same.
 
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Thank you very much for the responses! I was leaning the IDES route and you both just confirmed it for me.
 
Just wanted to update the timeline I have on this so far!

Army Reserve IDES Timeline

08/15/22 - Notice of referral to MEB

10/15/22 - Packet sent to MEB

10/27/22 - IDES Brief

11/07/22 - VSO sent “claims” to VA to set up evaluations

12/29/22 - VA Submitted findings to MEB

12/30/22 - Received MEB findings

01/05/23 - Submitted MEB response
 
@LBK During your process so far did you have to re-do any C&P exams?
I did not, I went through QTC who did a pretty good job. Only issue is one practitioner took a while to complete my Gen Med DBQ/exam after being seen
 
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