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Request for CRSC Calculation

jimmylangley

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Retired under CH 61: Medical Retirement (National Guard)

Gross Retirement Pay: $2523.00
DoD Retirement: 70%
Yrs/ Mos Active Duty: 2yrs/8mos/13days (2.74)
VA Percentage/Compensation: 80% / $2108.43 - Spouse & two children.
Projected CRSC: 100%
Qualify for other retirement: N/A
 

RonG

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Retired under CH 61: Medical Retirement (National Guard)

Gross Retirement Pay: $2523.00
DoD Retirement: 70%
Yrs/ Mos Active Duty: 2yrs/8mos/13days (2.74)
VA Percentage/Compensation: 80% / $2108.43 - Spouse & two children.
Projected CRSC: 100%
Qualify for other retirement: N/A
Hello,

Estimate.

1. 2523/70% = 3604 high three
2. 2.74 AD x 2.5% = 6.85% longevity multiplier
3. 3604 x 6.85% = 246.87 longevity portion of retired pay

Based on the info you provided, your CRSC will be ~246.87; however, see the edit below concerning residual retired pay that limits the amount of CRSC. Also, did you provide the active duty equivalent which is shown on your retirement orders as
“disability retirement “ ?

Ron

edited to add: Any residual retired pay will reduce the 246.87. The combination of CRSC and residual retired pay cannot exceed the longevity amount. It appears that you have residual retired pay that exceeds the longevity amount.

Gross retired pay 2523 minus 2108 VA comp = residual retired pay that exceeds the longevity amount. That results in zero CRSC .
 

Patcreed68

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Ron,

I am trying to get an estimate for my CRSC.

1. My gross disability retirement pay is $5800

1a. Yes, I received a disability retirement

2. My Army disability rating is70%

3. Years: my active duty equivalent is 12 years, 6 months, 12 days.

4a. My VA disability is 100%

4b. VA monthly compensation is $3653.89

4c. Dependents: spouse and 1 child under 18

4d. No SMC

5. My approved CRSC is 100%

6. I also am eligible for a reserve retirement. (Basic Pay: 25 years, 7, months, 15 days)

7. I did not receive REDUX/CSB.

8. No blended retirement that I’m aware of.

Thank you for your help with this.

Pat
 

RonG

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Hello @Patcreed68

Info provided.
1. My gross disability retirement pay is $5800
1a. Yes, I received a disability retirement
2. My Army disability rating is70%
3. Years: my active duty equivalent is 12 years, 6 months, 12 days.
4a. My VA disability is 100%
4b. VA monthly compensation is $3653.89
4c. Dependents: spouse and 1 child under 18
4d. No SMC
5. My approved CRSC is 100%
6. I also am eligible for a reserve retirement. (Basic Pay: 25 years, 7, months, 15 days)
7. I did not receive REDUX/CSB.
8. No blended retirement that I’m aware of.
Thank you for your help with this.
Pat

Estimate based on the info you provided.
a. 5800/70% = 8285.71 high three ave base pay
b. 5800 gross pay minus 3653.89 VA amount = 2146.11 residual retired pay--this will impact the amount of CRSC payable
c. 12.5 AD equivalent x 2.5% = 31.25% longevity multiplier
d. 8285.71 high three x 31.25% = 2589.28 longevity portion of retirement and much less than the approved 100% amount
e. CRSC when combined with residual retired pay cannot exceed the longevity amount
f. 2589.28 longevity and max CRSC minus 2146.11 residual = 443.17 CRSC
g. DFAS will pay: 443.17 CRSC and 2146.11 residual = 2589.28 from DFAS
h. The VA will pay: 3653.89 VA comp

Note: You are eligible for CRDP (in place of CRSC) but it is taxable and not payable until you meet the age requirement for reserve/NG retirement and your application for retirement is approved. However, the same rule applies regarding the ceiling, which is 2589.28, the longevity portion of retired pay. The CRDP and residual retired pay amount would be the same as the CRSC combination in your case.

Ron
 

Dwazell

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Ron,

Can you please give me an estimate for my CRSC.

1. My gross disability retirement pay is $5027

1a. Yes, I received a disability retirement

2. My Army disability rating is 50%

3. Years: my active duty equivalent is 17 years, 6 months.

4a. My VA disability is 100%

4b. VA monthly compensation is $3838.51

4c. Dependents: spouse and 3 child under 18

4d. No SMC

5. My approved CRSC is 50%

6.not eligible for reserve retirement only medical retirement

7. I did not receive REDUX/CSB.

8. No blended retirement

Thank you

Dustin
 

Newguy5

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1. My high 36 is: approx 3955
1a. Yes, I received a disability retirement
2. My Army disability rating is 50%
3. Years: my active duty equivalent is 12 years
4a. My VA disability is 100%
4b. VA monthly compensation is $3838.51
4c. Dependents: spouse and 3 child under 18
4d. No SMC
5. My approved CRSC is 60%
6. Not eligible
7. I did not receive REDUX/CSB
8. No blended retirement that I’m aware of

Thank you for your help with this. @RonG
 

RonG

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1. My high 36 is: approx 3955
1a. Yes, I received a disability retirement
2. My Army disability rating is 50%
3. Years: my active duty equivalent is 12 years
4a. My VA disability is 100%
4b. VA monthly compensation is $3838.51
4c. Dependents: spouse and 3 child under 18
4d. No SMC
5. My approved CRSC is 60%
6. Not eligible
7. I did not receive REDUX/CSB
8. No blended retirement that I’m aware of

Thank you for your help with this. @RonG
Hello @Newguy5

Your retirement orders should show your active-duty equivalent on page one, 3/4 down page, as "Disability Retirement". I mention this since it rare for someone to have total years with zero months.

That said, here is an estimate base on the info you provided.

a. High three 3955 x 50% = 1977.50 gross retired pay
b. 1977.50 minus 3000-plus VA comp = zero retired pay remaining
c. 12 yrs AD x 2.5% = 30% longevity multiplier
d. 3955 x 30% = 1186.50 longevity portion of retired pay and a CRSC ceiling
e. 60% CRSC using VA comp tables = a rate higher than 1186,50
f. Based on the info you provided, your CRSC will be 1186.50

Ron
 

Newguy5

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Hello @Newguy5

Your retirement orders should show your active-duty equivalent on page one, 3/4 down page, as "Disability Retirement". I mention this since it rare for someone to have total years with zero months.

That said, here is an estimate base on the info you provided.

a. High three 3955 x 50% = 1977.50 gross retired pay
b. 1977.50 minus 3000-plus VA comp = zero retired pay remaining
c. 12 yrs AD x 2.5% = 30% longevity multiplier
d. 3955 x 30% = 1186.50 longevity portion of retired pay and a CRSC ceiling
e. 60% CRSC using VA comp tables = a rate higher than 1186,50
f. Based on the info you provided, your CRSC will be 1186.50

Ron
Ok got it! Thank you sir! I’m pending everything still in IDES. These are estimates. Also, for the CRSC % amount, where would you find what was considered combat related?
 

RonG

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Ron,

Can you please give me an estimate for my CRSC.
1. My gross disability retirement pay is $5027
1a. Yes, I received a disability retirement
2. My Army disability rating is 50%
3. Years: my active duty equivalent is 17 years, 6 months.
4a. My VA disability is 100%
4b. VA monthly compensation is $3838.51
4c. Dependents: spouse and 3 child under 18
4d. No SMC
5. My approved CRSC is 50%
6.not eligible for reserve retirement only medical retirement
7. I did not receive REDUX/CSB.
8. No blended retirement
Thank you
Dustin
Hello @Dwazell

Thank you for your excellent outline of the info required for this computation.

Estimate.

a. 5027/50% = 10054 high three
b. 5027 minus 3838.51 = 1188.49 residual retired pay (this might reduce the amount of CRSC you will be paid)
c. 17.5 AD years x 2.5% = 43.75% longevity multiplier
d. 10054 x 43.75% = 4398.63 longevity portion of retired pay and a CRSC ceiling
e. CRSC at 50% = 1,118.44 plus 2 at 46.00 = 1210.44 which is less than the longevity portion of retired pay
f. The combination of CRSC and residual retired pay cannot exceed the longevity amount of 4398.63
g. CRSC from VA comp tables, 1210.44 plus 1188.49 residual retired pay = 2398.93 which is less than longevity
h. DFAS will pay each month:
--1210.44 CRSC
and
--1188.49 residual retired pay
TOTAL: 2398.93
i. You will also receive your VA compensation from the VA

Ron
 
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RonG

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Ok got it! Thank you sir! I’m pending everything still in IDES. These are estimates. Also, for the CRSC % amount, where would you find what was considered combat related?
If you are asking where the CRSC percentage comes from, it is the percentage of disabilities considered combat related by the CRSC board of your service. You have to submit an application to your service. See this:

Collection of CRSC information LINK <—-

Ron
 

Newguy5

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If you are asking where the CRSC percentage comes from, it is the percentage of disabilities considered combat related by the CRSC board of your service. You have to submit an application to your service. See this:

Collection of CRSC information LINK <—-

Ron
I worded it wrong, where will I find, Army, what the VA and PEB consider combat related?
 

RonG

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I worded it wrong, where will I find, Army, what the VA and PEB consider combat related?
I don't know what the PEB considers combat related; I did not experience a MEB/PEB. I suspect the services use the same criteria that is shown on the CRSC info page I referenced earlier, under "Combat-Related vs. Service-Connected (noncombat-related)
Some examples of CRSC combat-related situations (and corresponding required proof) vs. noncombat-related situations are as follows:"

The VA does not make determinations of combat related. They make determinations about service-connection for VA benefits including compensation.
I have combat-related and non-combat related disabilities rated by the VA.

Perhaps someone else might be able to help you with this matter.
@Provis would be a good choice.

Good luck,
Ron
 

Dwazell

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Hello @Dwazell

That you for your excellent outline of the info required for this computation.

Estimate.

a. 5027/50% = 10054 high three
b. 5027 minus 3838.51 = 1188.49 residual retired pay (this might reduce the amount of CRSC you will be paid)
c. 17.5 AD years x 2.5% = 43.75% longevity multiplier
d. 10054 x 43.75% = 4398.63 longevity portion of retired pay and a CRSC ceiling
e. CRSC at 50% = 1,118.44 plus 2 at 46.00 = 1210.44 which is less than the longevity portion of retired pay
f. The combination of CRSC and residual retired pay cannot exceed the longevity amount of 4398.63
g. CRSC from VA comp tables, 1210.44 plus 1188.49 residual retired pay = 2398.93 which is less than longevity
h. DFAS will pay each month:
--1210.44 CRSC
and
--1188.49 residual retired pay
TOTAL: 2398.93
i. You will also receive your VA compensation from the VA

Ron
Thank you very much
 

DirtDoc2582

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Retired under CH 61: Medical Retirement (Active Army)

Gross Retirement Pay: $1658.00
DoD Retirement: 70%
Yrs/ Mos Active Duty: 9yrs/7mos
VA Percentage/Compensation: 100% / $3653.89 - Spouse & one child
Projected CRSC: 90%
Qualify for other retirement: N/A
 

Provis

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Here are my calculations using CRSC calculator. I assumed your high 3 was $2,368 based on getting 70% DOD at $1,658 @RonG can you double check and see if i am right?

MONTHLY V.A. PAY
3653​
CRSC PAY
567.57​
RESIDUAL RETIRED PAY0
TOTAL FROM DFAS
567.57​
Total Pay
4220.57​
 

RonG

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Here are my calculations using CRSC calculator. I assumed your high 3 was $2,368 based on getting 70% DOD at $1,658 @RonG can you double check and see if i am right?

MONTHLY V.A. PAY
3653​
CRSC PAY
567.57​
RESIDUAL RETIRED PAY0
TOTAL FROM DFAS
567.57​
Total Pay
4220.57​
Hello @Provis

Info provided.
Gross Retirement Pay: $1658.00
DoD Retirement: 70%
Yrs/ Mos Active Duty: 9yrs/7mos
VA Percentage/Compensation: 100% / $3653.89 - Spouse & one child
Projected CRSC: 90%
Qualify for other retirement: N/A

Estimate (manual).
1. 1658/70% = 2368.57 high three
2. Zero residual retired pay after VA offset
3. 9.58 years x 2.5% (he did not provide info on blended retirement program) = 23.95% longevity multiplier
4. 2368.57 x 23.95% = 567.27 longevity portion of retired pay and CRSC since it is less than the rate associated with the approved 90% by service.

The difference of a few cents is due to rounding...

Good job by you and @edwards7986 !

Ron

edited to add: both computations are wrong if he was under the blended retirement program (i.e., 2.0% instead of 2.5%)
 
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