TDRL and Medical Marijuana

[Pac942]

I know the VA does not prescribe or provide medical marijuana. I was wondering if you went to a doc on your own and got a prescription while on TDRL if you would then run into issues. If you live in a state where you legally obtain a mmj card, and test positive at the VA what effect if any would this have on TDRL.

 

[gsfowler]

TDRL you are still a member of the military, and cannabis is not federally acceptable. It may be a risk not worth taking. The VA will not hold it against you, however if you do test positive or if you self disclose, it may end up in your electronic medical record.

http://www.ptsd.va.gov/professional/co-occurring/marijuana_use_ptsd_veterans.asp

 

[chaplaincharlie]

UCMJ continues to apply to retirees. i have no idea if a retiree, TDRL or PDRL, would be prosecuted.

 

[15yearvetarmy]

What command is actually gonna prosecute you for Marijuana after you are retired? What punishment would they hand down? That's a PR nightmare, "Military prosecutes Veteran for smoking medical marijuana to cope with PTSD and anxiety."

 

[chaplaincharlie]

TDRL you are still a member of the military, and cannabis is not federally acceptable. It may be a risk not worth taking. The VA will not hold it against you, however if you do test positive or if you self disclose, it may end up in your electronic medical record.

http://www.ptsd.va.gov/professional/co-occurring/marijuana_use_ptsd_veterans.asp

Great read. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Pac942]

Thanks for the replies guys.

 

[chaplaincharlie]

"Notwithstanding Barker [v. Kansas, 503 U.S. 594, 605 (1992)] and its implications regarding the tax status of retired pay, we are firmly convinced that those in a retired status remain “members” of the land and Naval forces who may face court-martial. As the appellant was in a retired status during the offenses and the proceedings, he was validly subject to court-martial."
United States v. Dinger, 76 M.J. 552, No. 201600108 (N.M. Ct. Crim. App. Mar. 28, 2017)

 

[Florida850]

"Notwithstanding Barker [v. Kansas, 503 U.S. 594, 605 (1992)] and its implications regarding the tax status of retired pay, we are firmly convinced that those in a retired status remain “members” of the land and Naval forces who may face court-martial. As the appellant was in a retired status during the offenses and the proceedings, he was validly subject to court-martial."
United States v. Dinger, 76 M.J. 552, No. 201600108 (N.M. Ct. Crim. App. Mar. 28, 2017)

Joshua James Frey is clear: “Without medical marijuana I would be dead.”

This Marine Corps veteran is a two-time Purple Heart awardee. He is among the former warfighters, led by the American Legion, who are on the frontlines of the fight for a sensible, federal medical marijuana policy.

They are pushing a reluctant Uncle Sam to catch up with overwhelming public opinion that favors allowing cannabis for medical use. We covered the Legion’s Capitol Hill press conference on Thursday with Frey, other veterans and a bipartisan group from Congress. Veterans, among the most respected citizens, are a potent force in the effort to move the federal government from a backward, anti-marijuana stance that resembles the 1936 melodramatic film propaganda of “Reefer Madness” more than today’s reality of widespread medical cannabis use.

Now, we hear the stories of two veterans who use medical marijuana and one who didn’t, but whose mother believes would be alive if he did. In powerful, emotional statements at the news conference, they all complained about the dangers of the drug cocktails prescribed by doctors who are prohibited from even discussing the marijuana that has proven far more beneficial for the two vets. Their stories differ starkly from a presidential commission on drug addiction report this month that said “there is a lack of sophisticated outcome data on dose, potency, and abuse potential for marijuana.”



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...a-use-in-defiance-of-backward-federal-policy/

Jose Belen claims that without medical cannabis he would likely be dead. Belen believes that the Schedule I classification of cannabis is unconstitutional. Now, he is suing Jeff Sessions to do something about it.

https://herb.co/marijuana/news/jose-belen-ptsd-veterans-suing-jeff-sessions/





We’ll take the risk.

 

[Florida850]

I don’t ask permission to save my life.

 

[Florida850]

The medications many of us were/are prescribed causes side effects worse than the ailments they treat. That’s then unfortunate truth.
Then they prescribe stuff to treat the side effects of other meds.
I was able to get off a 20 pill/day regime and use only medical cannabis in a legal FL program. I’m not hiding, I am “friends” with OSI agents in Facebook and my profile is 100% public. I’ve been in the media publicly as well. I’m tdrl. They can come and get it if that’s what they want with a legal nightmare.

 

[chaplaincharlie]

@Florida850 I was quoting the court in answer to the original poster's question. My professional opinion is that marijuana likely has beneficial effects for people suffering some disease processes. Both CBD and THC appear to have substantial benefits. On the other hand, there are also challenges associated with uses of MJ. Such as:

https://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/25/colorado-marijuana-traffic-fatalities/

 

[Chaps_Z]

Human nature is to look for the validation of our desires.

 

[chaplaincharlie]

Human nature is to look for the validation of our desires.

On target @Chaps_Z .

 

[Lemonpartyfan]

I received my medical marijuana card a couple years ago because I herniated my L4, L5, and L6 spinal discs. My primary care just kept pushing opioids and gabapentin, which is kind of like a muscle relaxer, and I was not comfortable with this.
During the day, if I`m having a difficult time managing my back pain, I take cbd tablets or use cbd oils.

 

[RonG]

The questions presented by the OP were answered more than two years ago. Thread closed.