Terminal leave and EAS

txaggie9

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I posted before regarding my husband's formal PEB and his MEB process...

We went to his formal PEB (paid out of pocket for me to attend) and he was given 30% from the board. We are just waiting for his D199 to be returned with the formal rating; the VA ratings were fine as they were.

However we have run into a bit of a snag. DH's EAS date is 22Oct13. He has not taken terminal leave due to his pending D199 and fighting with his command on his promotion (showed them the regs; they want him to go to two promotion boards but haven't tried to get him on one yet). Will he have to extend in order to get terminal leave?

He has more than 40 days on his LES and he was told that they would extend terminal leave to 20 extra days if you are getting retired. is this true or would he have to sell some of his leave back?
Also since he is gettibg retired, would he be able to use Tricare Prime or rely solely on the VA? Would we be paying for Tricare at the family annual fee?

This transitioning process is confusing as we don't know how to change everything over to what it should be without the active duty component. We are both in our early/mid 20s (24, 25).
TIA
 
So you have a lot of questions. Lets see if we can answer them.

1. He will be able to use his leave. When the 199 comes, he will sign and the PEB will send it to PDA. PDA is going to give him a no later then date which will be 90 days from when they approve the 199. Basically he will take his no later than date, subtract leave and PTDY (20 days) and come up with a day to start clearing.

2. I am not really tracking what you are asking about promotion. Since he is being retired, his retirement rank is not going to make a difference in pay. Pay will be based on his high three years of base pay, not his retirement base rate. Also, if he has not been to the board, is he basing his promotion on being on the automatic promotion list? If so, they do have to promote him on his final day in the Army. If he is not on the automatic promotion list, then his unit would have to send him to the board and recommend him for promotion. If he is not promotable, he will not get promoted.

3. He can get all his care at the VA for free once he has final VA ratings in hand. This will take one to a few months to get once his terminal leave is complete and he is officially out of the military. Right now he has proposed ratings, and the VA gives him a lower priority and can charge copays. As far as tricare prime, yes you will have to pay the annual enrollment fee at the family rate. It comes to a little over $40 a month. For prime, you will need to be within 40 miles of a military treatment facility. Otherwise, one of the other plans such as standard will have to be chosen.

I hope this helps a little. Please just break your questions down and we will answer them the best we can.

Joe
 
So you have a lot of questions. Lets see if we can answer them.

1. He will be able to use his leave. When the 199 comes, he will sign and the PEB will send it to PDA. PDA is going to give him a no later then date which will be 90 days from when they approve the 199. Basically he will take his no later than date, subtract leave and PTDY (20 days) and come up with a day to start clearing.

2. I am not really tracking what you are asking about promotion. Since he is being retired, his retirement rank is not going to make a difference in pay. Pay will be based on his high three years of base pay, not his retirement base rate. Also, if he has not been to the board, is he basing his promotion on being on the automatic promotion list? If so, they do have to promote him on his final day in the Army. If he is not on the automatic promotion list, then his unit would have to send him to the board and recommend him for promotion. If he is not promotable, he will not get promoted.

3. He can get all his care at the VA for free once he has final VA ratings in hand. This will take one to a few months to get once his terminal leave is complete and he is officially out of the military. Right now he has proposed ratings, and the VA gives him a lower priority and can charge copays. As far as tricare prime, yes you will have to pay the annual enrollment fee at the family rate. It comes to a little over $40 a month. For prime, you will need to be within 40 miles of a military treatment facility. Otherwise, one of the other plans such as standard will have to be chosen.

I hope this helps a little. Please just break your questions down and we will answer them the best we can.

Joe

I believe he is basing it on the automatic promotion list. He is a star MOS, primary zone and his points for his next rank are only 14. He has well over 14 points, no question there. It just seems his command refuses to give him the chance to go to the board. Dh's 1sgt and CSM have known since May and DH has asked just in case someone didn't read their email but they won't give him a clear answer which is making DH uneasy and he may talk to someone at IG since he went through CoC already.
 
I believe he is basing it on the automatic promotion list. He is a star MOS, primary zone and his points for his next rank are only 14. He has well over 14 points, no question there. It just seems his command refuses to give him the chance to go to the board. Dh's 1sgt and CSM have known since May and DH has asked just in case someone didn't read their email but they won't give him a clear answer which is making

ng DH uneasy (DH is the only one with the actual MOS in his shop so he's training

If he is on the automatic promotion list, which means he was given promotable status without having to go to the board, then he would get the promotion. If he has not made that list, then he would not without a board appearance. A quick check to see if he is on the C-10 roster would verify this. Each company is required to post the list in their orderly room. Unfortunately, there is no way to force a unit to send a soldier to the board if they don't want to. They are, however required to counsel a soldier in the primary zone every 90 days on why they are not being recommended.

Here are some relevant excerpts from AR 600-18-19. I highly recommend you download and read this regulation if you want to have a chance in this fight. Units are very well known for failing to counsel and this would be a real opportunity to push back.

1–20. Promotion of Soldiers pending referral to a Military Occupational Specialty Medical Retention
Board, medical evaluation board, or physical evaluation board

a. Soldiers who are pending referral to a Military Occupational Specialty Medical Retention Board (MMRB) under
AR 600–60 or referral to a medical evaluation board (MEB) under AR 40–400 or physical evaluation board (PEB)
under AR 635–40 will not be denied promotion (if already promotable) on the basis of medical disqualification if they
are otherwise qualified for promotion.

b. Soldiers who have been conditionally promoted but are unable to meet the condition of their promotion solely
because of a medical condition that results in a finding of unfit by the Physical Disability Evaluation System (PDES)
will not be subject to administrative reduction if otherwise qualified to retain promotable status.
c. Per the provisions of 10 USC 1372, Soldiers on a promotion list at the time of retirement for disability will be
retired for disability at the promotion list grade. Further, the Soldier will be promoted to the designated grade effective
the day before placement on the retired list.
d. Per the provisions of 10 USC 1212, Soldiers who are on a promotion list at the time of separation for disability
with entitlement to disability severance pay will be paid such compensation at the promotion list grade. Further, the
Soldier will be promoted to the designated grade effective the Soldiers separation date
.
e. The guidance at paragraph c and d , above, also pertains to AA Soldiers who have reached the time-in-service
requirements for the next level of automatic promotion (PV2 to SPC).
f. Soldiers determined unfit by the PDES but approved for continuation on active duty under the provisions of AR
635–40, chapter 6, are otherwise eligible for promotion during the continuation on active duty period
1–26. Counseling of Soldiers not recommended for promotion
a. First-line leaders will counsel Soldiers who are eligible for promotion to PV2 through SSG without a waiver
(fully qualified) but not recommended in writing. Counseling will take place initially when the Soldier attains
eligibility, and at least every 3 months thereafter, and include information as to why the Soldier was not recommended
and what can be done to correct deficiencies or qualities that reflect a lack of promotion potential.

b. There are no requirements to counsel Soldiers who are not recommended for promotion to SFC through SGM.
Counselors will comply with the requirements of paragraphs 3–11 or 5–21, of this regulation, for Soldiers competing
for promotion to SGT/SSG.
c. Not applicable to the ARNG, see paragraph 7–33 for denying ARNG Soldiers consideration.

Section III
Task: Identifying and Processing Recommendation for Promotion to Sergeant and Staff Sergeant
3–11. Rules

a. The BN HR specialist will prepare the unit enlisted promotion report no later than the second working day of the
month prior to the board month, then forward to the appropriate CDR no later than the third duty day of the month
prior to the board month. HRC will send an eligibility/ineligibility listing for USAR Soldiers on or about the first of
the month.
b. Unit CDRs will personally review, make recommendations/nonrecommendations, sign the report, and then return
it to the HR specialist within 5 duty days.
c. For Soldiers fully qualified but not recommended, the BN HR specialist will prepare the DA Form 3355 and
forward it to the first-line leader for appropriate counseling. Once the counseling is completed, the CDR will forward
DA Form 3355 and counseling documents to the promotion authority for final decision.
d. Once a Soldier has been counseled for not being recommended for promotion, the BN HR specialist will not
continue to provide a new DA Form 3355 to the CDR. Copies of the Soldiers periodic counseling (at least quarterly)
will be provided to the promotion authority until the Soldier is recommended for promotion or is no longer eligible.

e. The BN HR specialist will schedule and conduct appointments for Soldiers recommended for board appearance
no later than the 15th of the month prior to the board month. Soldiers must bring all promotion related source
documents to the appointment.
f. Corrections may be made or new administrative points may be added up to and including the date the board
proceedings are approved.
g. All dates on DA Form 3355 will reflect year, month, and date (YYYYMMDD)
Step Work center Required action
9 Soldier Verify accuracy of recommended list (SSN, RMOS, points, and points date), if all information is
correct, initial report. If information is incorrect, immediately inform BN HR for error resolution.
10 BN HR Coordinates with PROM to resolve all discrepancies.

3–17. Department of the Army directed promotion list integration to sergeant and staff sergeant
a. Each month, AA Soldiers in all MOSs who meet the following criteria will be automatically integrated onto the
SGT and SSG promotion standing lists, provided they are otherwise eligible for promotion consideration despite
lacking the actual promotion board appearance as outlined below—

(1) To SGT—
(a) 46 months TIS (to become eligible for promotion at 48 months).
(b) 10 months TIMIG (to become eligible for promotion at 12 months).
(c) Otherwise not ineligible in accordance with this regulation.
(d) Not otherwise denied by the CDR.
(e) Soldier must have a minimum of 90 days remaining service as of the month of integration onto the recom-
mended list.

(2) To SSG—
(a) 82 months TIS (to become eligible for promotion at 84 months).
(b) 10 months TIMIG (to become eligible for promotion at 12 months).
(c) Graduate of the Warrior Leaders Course (WLC).
(d) Otherwise not ineligible in accordance with this regulation.
(e) Not otherwise denied by the CDR.
(f) Soldier must have a minimum of 90 days remaining service as of the month of integration onto the recommended
list.
b. If the CDR determines that a promotion is to be denied, the unit CDR will take action to deny list integration
prior to the 15th of the month the Soldier’s name is identified for list integration. Failure to deny integration by the 15th
of the month the Soldier attains eligibility will result in the Soldier being integrated onto the promotion standing list.
All Soldiers denied list integration will be counseled, in writing, in accordance with the provisions of paragraph 1–26.
c. All Soldiers automatically integrated onto the SGT/SSG recommended list will—
(1) Not have a DA Form 3355.
(2) Have a current APFT and weapons qualification or exception.
(3) Receive the minimum promotion score (350 points for SGT and 450 points for SSG).
(4) Not be eligible for recomputations.
(5) Not be awarded additional points based on the Airborne Promotion Advantage.
d. Soldiers added to the recommended list under this paragraph who desire to receive promotion points based on
their actual accomplishments, in accordance with the procedures outlined in this chapter, must be recommended by
their chain of command. Soldiers choosing to appear before a promotion board after automatic list integration will
follow the procedures for total reevaluation.

e. After board appearance, if the Soldier does not have the minimum points (fewer than 350 points for SGT and 450
points for SSG) required to stay on the standing list but was recommended by the promotion board and the Soldier was
automatic list integrated, the Soldier will remain on the list with 350 points or 450 points as appropriate. To add any
points, the Soldier must reappear before a promotion board.
f. Soldiers appearing before a promotion board but not recommended for promotion, regardless of whether they were
automatic list integrated, will be removed from the promotion standing list and must reappear before a promotion board
to regain promotable status.
g. To facilitate the leader development process for Soldiers who were previously denied DA Directed promotion list
integration, the Army will automatically re-integrate otherwise eligible Soldiers (para 3–17 a, above) every 90 days
following their previous denial. Unit CDRs will take action to deny these quarterly integration efforts when Soldier’s
performance counseling otherwise
 
if he is put into a situation that he would not be able to take all of his leave and PTDY, he can request an extension to his final out date. I did one to change my final out date to the 27th instead of the 9th of the same month. Don't listen to whomever is cutting his orders about not being able to change his no later than date, I was told it couldn't be changed and I had it changed. Also, if he has a promotable status from the automatic promotion, it will show that he is to be promoted on his DD214 the day before he finally gets out. He should be able to see if he has a promotable status on his ERB. On my DD214 it shows that I was promoted on the 26th of the month that I got out.
 
If he is on the automatic promotion list, which means he was given promotable status without having to go to the board, then he would get the promotion. If he has not made that list, then he would not without a board appearance. A quick check to see if he is on the C-10 roster would verify this. Each company is required to post the list in their orderly room. Unfortunately, there is no way to force a unit to send a soldier to the board if they don't want to. They are, however required to counsel a soldier in the primary zone every 90 days on why they are not being recommended.

Here are some relevant excerpts from AR 600-18-19. I highly recommend you download and read this regulation if you want to have a chance in this fight. Units are very well known for failing to counsel and this would be a real opportunity to push back.

1–20. Promotion of Soldiers pending referral to a Military Occupational Specialty Medical Retention
Board, medical evaluation board, or physical evaluation board

a. Soldiers who are pending referral to a Military Occupational Specialty Medical Retention Board (MMRB) under
AR 600–60 or referral to a medical evaluation board (MEB) under AR 40–400 or physical evaluation board (PEB)
under AR 635–40 will not be denied promotion (if already promotable) on the basis of medical disqualification if they
are otherwise qualified for promotion.

b. Soldiers who have been conditionally promoted but are unable to meet the condition of their promotion solely
because of a medical condition that results in a finding of unfit by the Physical Disability Evaluation System (PDES)
will not be subject to administrative reduction if otherwise qualified to retain promotable status.
c. Per the provisions of 10 USC 1372, Soldiers on a promotion list at the time of retirement for disability will be
retired for disability at the promotion list grade. Further, the Soldier will be promoted to the designated grade effective
the day before placement on the retired list.
d. Per the provisions of 10 USC 1212, Soldiers who are on a promotion list at the time of separation for disability
with entitlement to disability severance pay will be paid such compensation at the promotion list grade. Further, the
Soldier will be promoted to the designated grade effective the Soldiers separation date
.
e. The guidance at paragraph c and d , above, also pertains to AA Soldiers who have reached the time-in-service
requirements for the next level of automatic promotion (PV2 to SPC).
f. Soldiers determined unfit by the PDES but approved for continuation on active duty under the provisions of AR
635–40, chapter 6, are otherwise eligible for promotion during the continuation on active duty period
1–26. Counseling of Soldiers not recommended for promotion
a. First-line leaders will counsel Soldiers who are eligible for promotion to PV2 through SSG without a waiver
(fully qualified) but not recommended in writing. Counseling will take place initially when the Soldier attains
eligibility, and at least every 3 months thereafter, and include information as to why the Soldier was not recommended
and what can be done to correct deficiencies or qualities that reflect a lack of promotion potential.

b. There are no requirements to counsel Soldiers who are not recommended for promotion to SFC through SGM.
Counselors will comply with the requirements of paragraphs 3–11 or 5–21, of this regulation, for Soldiers competing
for promotion to SGT/SSG.
c. Not applicable to the ARNG, see paragraph 7–33 for denying ARNG Soldiers consideration.

Section III
Task: Identifying and Processing Recommendation for Promotion to Sergeant and Staff Sergeant
3–11. Rules

a. The BN HR specialist will prepare the unit enlisted promotion report no later than the second working day of the
month prior to the board month, then forward to the appropriate CDR no later than the third duty day of the month
prior to the board month. HRC will send an eligibility/ineligibility listing for USAR Soldiers on or about the first of
the month.
b. Unit CDRs will personally review, make recommendations/nonrecommendations, sign the report, and then return
it to the HR specialist within 5 duty days.
c. For Soldiers fully qualified but not recommended, the BN HR specialist will prepare the DA Form 3355 and
forward it to the first-line leader for appropriate counseling. Once the counseling is completed, the CDR will forward
DA Form 3355 and counseling documents to the promotion authority for final decision.
d. Once a Soldier has been counseled for not being recommended for promotion, the BN HR specialist will not
continue to provide a new DA Form 3355 to the CDR. Copies of the Soldiers periodic counseling (at least quarterly)
will be provided to the promotion authority until the Soldier is recommended for promotion or is no longer eligible.

e. The BN HR specialist will schedule and conduct appointments for Soldiers recommended for board appearance
no later than the 15th of the month prior to the board month. Soldiers must bring all promotion related source
documents to the appointment.
f. Corrections may be made or new administrative points may be added up to and including the date the board
proceedings are approved.
g. All dates on DA Form 3355 will reflect year, month, and date (YYYYMMDD)
Step Work center Required action
9 Soldier Verify accuracy of recommended list (SSN, RMOS, points, and points date), if all information is
correct, initial report. If information is incorrect, immediately inform BN HR for error resolution.
10 BN HR Coordinates with PROM to resolve all discrepancies.

3–17. Department of the Army directed promotion list integration to sergeant and staff sergeant
a. Each month, AA Soldiers in all MOSs who meet the following criteria will be automatically integrated onto the
SGT and SSG promotion standing lists, provided they are otherwise eligible for promotion consideration despite
lacking the actual promotion board appearance as outlined below—

(1) To SGT—
(a) 46 months TIS (to become eligible for promotion at 48 months).
(b) 10 months TIMIG (to become eligible for promotion at 12 months).
(c) Otherwise not ineligible in accordance with this regulation.
(d) Not otherwise denied by the CDR.
(e) Soldier must have a minimum of 90 days remaining service as of the month of integration onto the recom-
mended list.

(2) To SSG—
(a) 82 months TIS (to become eligible for promotion at 84 months).
(b) 10 months TIMIG (to become eligible for promotion at 12 months).
(c) Graduate of the Warrior Leaders Course (WLC).
(d) Otherwise not ineligible in accordance with this regulation.
(e) Not otherwise denied by the CDR.
(f) Soldier must have a minimum of 90 days remaining service as of the month of integration onto the recommended
list.
b. If the CDR determines that a promotion is to be denied, the unit CDR will take action to deny list integration
prior to the 15th of the month the Soldier’s name is identified for list integration. Failure to deny integration by the 15th
of the month the Soldier attains eligibility will result in the Soldier being integrated onto the promotion standing list.
All Soldiers denied list integration will be counseled, in writing, in accordance with the provisions of paragraph 1–26.
c. All Soldiers automatically integrated onto the SGT/SSG recommended list will—
(1) Not have a DA Form 3355.
(2) Have a current APFT and weapons qualification or exception.
(3) Receive the minimum promotion score (350 points for SGT and 450 points for SSG).
(4) Not be eligible for recomputations.
(5) Not be awarded additional points based on the Airborne Promotion Advantage.
d. Soldiers added to the recommended list under this paragraph who desire to receive promotion points based on
their actual accomplishments, in accordance with the procedures outlined in this chapter, must be recommended by
their chain of command. Soldiers choosing to appear before a promotion board after automatic list integration will
follow the procedures for total reevaluation.

e. After board appearance, if the Soldier does not have the minimum points (fewer than 350 points for SGT and 450
points for SSG) required to stay on the standing list but was recommended by the promotion board and the Soldier was
automatic list integrated, the Soldier will remain on the list with 350 points or 450 points as appropriate. To add any
points, the Soldier must reappear before a promotion board.
f. Soldiers appearing before a promotion board but not recommended for promotion, regardless of whether they were
automatic list integrated, will be removed from the promotion standing list and must reappear before a promotion board
to regain promotable status.
g. To facilitate the leader development process for Soldiers who were previously denied DA Directed promotion list
integration, the Army will automatically re-integrate otherwise eligible Soldiers (para 3–17 a, above) every 90 days
following their previous denial. Unit CDRs will take action to deny these quarterly integration efforts when Soldier’s
performance counseling otherwise

Thank you so much for this. It answers some things.

My husband was told that he would not be promoted because he has less than 90 days out (I think it's including his terminal leave; his date of discharge is 4 Dec of this year). However, his 1SGT (who has been TDY/deployed or something) just told him this decision last week even though he's known since June when my husband showed him the MILPER.

He had an informal meeting with his 1Sgt and his 1Sgt told him the reasons why, etc. but he hasn't been counseled in writing regarding it or anything.

I apologize about the random postings,etc. We were just told two weeks ago that he can transition to PTDY/terminal on the 28th of this month. He just received his leave paperwork back since he turned it in last Friday and will begin clearing on Monday. It's been chaos.

I do have another question though..which no one can give my husband too. What happens to our ID cards (since I use it for health insurance)? They both expire next month.
 
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if he is put into a situation that he would not be able to take all of his leave and PTDY, he can request an extension to his final out date. I did one to change my final out date to the 27th instead of the 9th of the same month. Don't listen to whomever is cutting his orders about not being able to change his no later than date, I was told it couldn't be changed and I had it changed. Also, if he has a promotable status from the automatic promotion, it will show that he is to be promoted on his DD214 the day before he finally gets out. He should be able to see if he has a promotable status on his ERB. On my DD214 it shows that I was promoted on the 26th of the month that I got out.


HE was told he has to sell two days back.

He tried to put his promotion points on his ERB (he's not on any list though) and they denied it because he isn't promotable. We are just both really confused and no one is giving straight answers either.

I had asked him to talk to his PEBLO regarding the selling of the days but he refused so he's now SOL.
 
Thank you so much for this. It answers some things.

My husband was told that he would not be promoted because he has less than 90 days out (I think it's including his terminal leave; his date of discharge is 4 Dec of this year). However, his 1SGT (who has been TDY/deployed or something) just told him this decision last week even though he's known since June when my husband showed him the MILPER.

He had an informal meeting with his 1Sgt and his 1Sgt told him the reasons why, etc. but he hasn't been counseled in writing regarding it or anything.

I apologize about the random postings,etc. We were just told two weeks ago that he can transition to PTDY/terminal on the 28th of this month. He just received his leave paperwork back since he turned it in last Friday and will begin clearing on Monday. It's been chaos.

I do have another question though..which no one can give my husband too. What happens to our ID cards (since I use it for health insurance)? They both expire next month.
1. If he is extending, new ID cards are to be issued.
2. If the cards expire before the new ETS, then get new ones.
3. If he is being retired, you both will get new ID cards. Him the blue and you the same pink one, yours will change information on the back.
 
HE was told he has to sell two days back.

He tried to put his promotion points on his ERB (he's not on any list though) and they denied it because he isn't promotable. We are just both really confused and no one is giving straight answers either.

I had asked him to talk to his PEBLO regarding the selling of the days but he refused so he's now SOL.
He will be promoted if he is on the Automated Intergrated Promotion List (AIP) and there is nothing the CoC can do about it.

The S-1 HAS to update schools and awards on the ERB for he SM to receive a correct and accurate DD214, hence they will have to add at least those points at a minimum, otherwise the S-1 will be falsifying a document! (My mind is genius at times)

I forgot where I got this, but it is out of the regs:
Promotion Orders if promotable. FOR THIS YOU DEAL DIRECTLY WITH BDE S-1, YOUR BN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS!!! Note: If Soldier is promotable the attached ERB with your new ETS date (written on top by you) bring it to your BDE S-1 if unit is in PSDR. Promotion orders are REQUIRED per paragraph 8 of the MILPER MSG 09-067. The promotion date WILL be the last day on Active Duty. PSDR units are REQUIRED to publish the promotion order. Orders for Non-PSDR units will be published by the installation promotion section. Your RSO will help with this if your being retired, if being seperated the Transition office can help too.
 
1. If he is extending, new ID cards are to be issued.
2. If the cards expire before the new ETS, then get new ones.
3. If he is being retired, you both will get new ID cards. Him the blue and you the same pink one, yours will change information on the back.

Okay, thanks for the information.
 
He will be promoted if he is on the Automated Intergrated Promotion List (AIP) and there is nothing the CoC can do about it.

The S-1 HAS to update schools and awards on the ERB for he SM to receive a correct and accurate DD214, hence they will have to add at least those points at a minimum, otherwise the S-1 will be falsifying a document! (My mind is genius at times)

I forgot where I got this, but it is out of the regs:
Promotion Orders if promotable. FOR THIS YOU DEAL DIRECTLY WITH BDE S-1, YOUR BN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS!!! Note: If Soldier is promotable the attached ERB with your new ETS date (written on top by you) bring it to your BDE S-1 if unit is in PSDR. Promotion orders are REQUIRED per paragraph 8 of the MILPER MSG 09-067. The promotion date WILL be the last day on Active Duty. PSDR units are REQUIRED to publish the promotion order. Orders for Non-PSDR units will be published by the installation promotion section. Your RSO will help with this if your being retired, if being seperated the Transition office can help too.

If he isn't promotable (from what he was told last week) and they won't add him to the AIP either, do they still have to put the points on the ERB?

SO if his discharge date is 4 December, would that be his new ETS date AND his last date on active duty?

Sorry if I'm confusing. These changes in dates are confusing.
 
Thank you so much for this. It answers some things.

My husband was told that he would not be promoted because he has less than 90 days out (I think it's including his terminal leave; his date of discharge is 4 Dec of this year). However, his 1SGT (who has been TDY/deployed or something) just told him this decision last week even though he's known since June when my husband showed him the MILPER.

He had an informal meeting with his 1Sgt and his 1Sgt told him the reasons why, etc. but he hasn't been counseled in writing regarding it or anything.

I apologize about the random postings,etc. We were just told two weeks ago that he can transition to PTDY/terminal on the 28th of this month. He just received his leave paperwork back since he turned it in last Friday and will begin clearing on Monday. It's been chaos.

I do have another question though..which no one can give my husband too. What happens to our ID cards (since I use it for health insurance)? They both expire next month.

Once terminal leave is finished, you all will get your blue ID cards. If your ID cards are due to expire before that date, you should be able to get active duty ID cards that will expire on his last official (terminal leave is over) day. Then you would go get the blue ID cards. What is important is you bring this up with the DEERS section, and you have an appointment before the cards expire. Another route would be use the SFAC. All MEB/PEB soldiers are allowed to use this service.
 
Once terminal leave is finished, you all will get your blue ID cards. If your ID cards are due to expire before that date, you should be able to get active duty ID cards that will expire on his last official (terminal leave is over) day. Then you would go get the blue ID cards. What is important is you bring this up with the DEERS section, and you have an appointment before the cards expire. Another route would be use the SFAC. All MEB/PEB soldiers are allowed to use this service.
What does SFAC stand for?


Does my husband have to bring in his medical separation memo in order to show DEERS that we need the AD IDs (so they don't change our status before they have to...the PEBLO warned us on that part)?

Thank you for the clarification.

I really appreciate the help but apologize about the 100 questions. We only have had two weeks (not even that...) to pack/clear without being told what to do with our IDs, etc.
 
What does SFAC stand for?


Does my husband have to bring in his medical separation memo in order to show DEERS that we need the AD IDs (so they don't change our status before they have to...the PEBLO warned us on that part)?

Thank you for the clarification.

I really appreciate the help but apologize about the 100 questions. We only have had two weeks (not even that...) to pack/clear without being told what to do with our IDs, etc.

Soldier & Family Assistance Center (SFAC)

Yes bring the separation orders to DEERS. Explain that your current ID will expire prior to his terminal leave is up. Ask them to either give you your retirement ID (doubtful), or a temp ID to bridge the gap until you can get the retirement ID. With me, they issued me an ID card short term and then had me come back in on my actual sep date. I suggest trying to go through SFAC because they can handle the ID, and any other needs you have.

On another note, if you are going to keep tricare prime you need to sign up for it prior to separating. If you don't, they will automatically set you up on tricare standard. Again, talk to the SFAC about this.
 
Can we still go to the SFAC once we are retire to get our ID cards
 
What does SFAC stand for?


Does my husband have to bring in his medical separation memo in order to show DEERS that we need the AD IDs (so they don't change our status before they have to...the PEBLO warned us on that part)?

Thank you for the clarification.

I really appreciate the help but apologize about the 100 questions. We only have had two weeks (not even that...) to pack/clear without being told what to do with our IDs, etc.
You guys will hold on to the ID cards as you go, he will have his AD ID card until after he digitally signs the DD214. After that you guys can get the retirement card when he signs out for terminal leave. You can do this at any facility that issues ID cards MEP, Reserve stations and any military post. Just ensure your DEERS information is accurate before you go.
 
Soldier & Family Assistance Center (SFAC)

Yes bring the separation orders to DEERS. Explain that your current ID will expire prior to his terminal leave is up. Ask them to either give you your retirement ID (doubtful), or a temp ID to bridge the gap until you can get the retirement ID. With me, they issued me an ID card short term and then had me come back in on my actual sep date. I suggest trying to go through SFAC because they can handle the ID, and any other needs you have.

On another note, if you are going to keep tricare prime you need to sign up for it prior to separating. If you don't, they will automatically set you up on tricare standard. Again, talk to the SFAC about this.

My husband was never put in a WTU or even designated a WTU soldier so can we still use the SFAC?

I called Tricare and they said we can't switch to Prime Retiree until our DEERS information is reflected (last date) or else it will cause a lot of issues. So we can hold on that because I'm already on Prime.
 
My husband was never put in a WTU or even designated a WTU soldier so can we still use the SFAC?

I called Tricare and they said we can't switch to Prime Retiree until our DEERS information is reflected (last date) or else it will cause a lot of issues. So we can hold on that because I'm already on Prime.
Are y'all going to be living within 60 miles of a MTF?
 
My husband was never put in a WTU or even designated a WTU soldier so can we still use the SFAC?

I called Tricare and they said we can't switch to Prime Retiree until our DEERS information is reflected (last date) or else it will cause a lot of issues. So we can hold on that because I'm already on Prime.

Yes non WTU MEB soldiers can use it. As far as tricare, I am not sure if they are steering you the right way. They can use your retirement orders to get your paperwork done, and then it will be ready for your transition.

Grizz, we had a thread on ID about three weeks ago and what we came up with is everybody does it different. On Fort Drum, they would not give me my retiree card until my terminal leave ended and I was officially retired. Many others in the thread had the same problem. I guess it will just come down to the DEERS you work with. Seems like it would be common sense to get it done, but like everything else, they all read the regs different.
 
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