Timeline for Army Reserve IDES at JBSA

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Before MEB referral: 2 years, 6 weeks
P3 condition identified: 8 Sep 2019
P3 profile signed 7 Nov 2019
ARMMC accepted case: 20 Dec 2019
Other P3 profiles signed: 9 Dec 2020
IDRM/LOD complete for first condition: 17 Sep 2021
LOD advisory opinion complete for second condition: 12 Oct 2021

From MEB referral to likely discharge: 169 days
MEB referral: 22 Oct 2021
Contacted by MSC: 29 Oct 2021
VA exams: 12 & 18 Nov 2021
MEB results/received 3947: 6 Dec 2021
MEB IMR: 14 Dec 2021
MEB rebuttal submitted: 21 Dec 2021
MEB appeal response and signed 3947: 4 Jan 2022
Sent to PEB: 5 Jan 2022
VA rating decision: 15 Feb 2022 (22 Oct original claim date, already had ratings for all conditions)
IPEB decision: 24 Feb 2022
Received DA 199: 4 Mar 2022
Suspense for PEB election by Soldier: 10 Mar 2022 (6-day window)
Likely discharge date: 9 Apr 2022 (PEBLO says discharge date is set to 30 days from accepting the IPEB findings, which may only apply to the Reserves since there is no terminal leave or PTDY to be taken. She says retirement orders can be cut within a few days of the IPEB election and usually not longer than a week or two after)

Finding 90% DoD PDRL/ 70% combat/100% VA.
 
I am currently reserves and got MEB referred 28FEB22. What is the MSC you referred to who contacted you. I have not been told anything by anyone and only found out by looking at my profile.
 
I am currently reserves and got MEB referred 28FEB22. What is the MSC you referred to who contacted you. I have not been told anything by anyone and only found out by looking at my profile.
Hello @moon52

MEB Phase
What happens after the referral?
The wounded, ill, or injured Service Member will be assigned a PEBLO, located in the Medical Boards section of the military treatment facility (MTF), who will develop the VA Claim (Part 1 of the VA Claim Form 21-0819). PEBLOs will consult with all medical specialists to determine which medical condition(s) should be included. The Service Member will be referred to a VA claims development representative, the Military Service Coordinator (MSC) who counsels them on the VA portion of IDES and assists them in completing parts II-IV of the claim. Additionally, the MSC will schedule all VA medical exams required for the IDES process. In addition to the MEB referred conditions the Service Member may claim disability for any service incurred or aggravated medical conditions.

Ron
 
I am currently reserves and got MEB referred 28FEB22. What is the MSC you referred to who contacted you. I have not been told anything by anyone and only found out by looking at my profile.
It may say referred to the MEB, but assuming you are army, actually the case has most likely gone to the Army Reserves Medical Management Center (AR-MMC, pronounced R-mac).

Their website is here: United States Army Reserve Medical Management Center

Their contact roster is here: AR-MMC Organization Chart

What they should do now is assign a nurse case manager to you to make sure everything is on the up-and-up for the MEB referral, like lines of duty or their equivalent IDRM and that your profiles and duty status have been verified and that you have a 7652 statement from your commander. They may take a couple of months to assign you a nurse case manager. Then when things are all good, you are formally referred to the MEB. I was in this state of limbo at the ARMMC for over two years. Then once you are referred to the MEB, you should hear from the VA MSC within a week.
 
It may say referred to the MEB, but assuming you are army, actually the case has most likely gone to the Army Reserves Medical Management Center (AR-MMC, pronounced R-mac).

Their website is here: United States Army Reserve Medical Management Center

Their contact roster is here: AR-MMC Organization Chart

What they should do now is assign a nurse case manager to you to make sure everything is on the up-and-up for the MEB referral, like lines of duty or their equivalent IDRM and that your profiles and duty status have been verified and that you have a 7652 statement from your commander. They may take a couple of months to assign you a nurse case manager. Then when things are all good, you are formally referred to the MEB. I was in this state of limbo at the ARMMC for over two years. Then once you are referred to the MEB, you should hear from the VA MSC within a week.
Why so long. I know things move in the military pretty slowly. But that seems excessive, even for the reserves.
 
Why so long. I know things move in the military pretty slowly. But that seems excessive, even for the reserves.
Yeah. My first nurse case manager actually ended up getting fired, I assume because she wasn't doing her job. The case moved much more quickly after she was let go. I probably should have looked up her supervisor on the contact roster I posted earlier and asked some questions many months before she was fired. However, delays at the AR-MMC might not be all bad. For a condition to count as a "referred" condition for the MEB, it has to be established that it was in the line of duty, either through an investigation or an equivalent memo. It is much better to wait and get the proper documentation before being referred to the MEB than to go quickly without it. If you don't get the proper documentation, the MEB/PEB may rule that the condition is not in the line of duty and therefore noncompensable.
 
So I guess I am kind of torn, I have been reading a lot of these forums. I was referred already. I honestly do not really care if It rules FIT or UNFIT. The only reason I am still in the reserves is because of my dual status. I am Title 5 which means I can keep my job if medically retired, however, it has to be combat related. The condition "Should be deemed" combat related. but you never know.

What I do not know is how far into it that is determined and if by then it is to late. If it progresses with out me trying to stop it and its ruled un related, then I am screwed.
 
Do you know who actually does the IDRM? My case manager led me on the whole MEB and PEB process only for both to say no LOD and now saying since I am appealing they cannot do the IDRM. Is the IDRM unit level or case manager?
 
Before MEB referral: 2 years, 6 weeks
P3 condition identified: 8 Sep 2019
P3 profile signed 7 Nov 2019
ARMMC accepted case: 20 Dec 2019
Other P3 profiles signed: 9 Dec 2020
IDRM/LOD complete for first condition: 17 Sep 2021
LOD advisory opinion complete for second condition: 12 Oct 2021

From MEB referral to likely discharge: 169 days
MEB referral: 22 Oct 2021
Contacted by MSC: 29 Oct 2021
VA exams: 12 & 18 Nov 2021
MEB results/received 3947: 6 Dec 2021
MEB IMR: 14 Dec 2021
MEB rebuttal submitted: 21 Dec 2021
MEB appeal response and signed 3947: 4 Jan 2022
Sent to PEB: 5 Jan 2022
VA rating decision: 15 Feb 2022 (22 Oct original claim date, already had ratings for all conditions)
IPEB decision: 24 Feb 2022
Received DA 199: 4 Mar 2022
Suspense for PEB election by Soldier: 10 Mar 2022 (6-day window)
Likely discharge date: 9 Apr 2022 (PEBLO says discharge date is set to 30 days from accepting the IPEB findings, which may only apply to the Reserves since there is no terminal leave or PTDY to be taken. She says retirement orders can be cut within a few days of the IPEB election and usually not longer than a week or two after)

Finding 90% DoD PDRL/ 70% combat/100% VA.
Army reserve with 28 years. Expect over 30% DOD.

Got any questions of retirement orders. My VA ratings are already completed and I am awaiting my DA 199. According to my PEBLO 199 will come in this week or next week.

The question I have is about the retirement orders since I am in the reserves. I requested orders via my unit and was granted. It’s medical orders that won’t change conditions. Any case I do want to attend those orders 8-19 July 2024.

If I sign the 199 how long after can I expect orders?

Can I request a pause or particular retirement date? If you WHO do I contact so that the Army gives me enough time to out process. I know it’s reserves and there’s no leave etc

Any info would be appreciated
 
Army reserve with 28 years. Expect over 30% DOD.

Got any questions of retirement orders. My VA ratings are already completed and I am awaiting my DA 199. According to my PEBLO 199 will come in this week or next week.

The question I have is about the retirement orders since I am in the reserves. I requested orders via my unit and was granted. It’s medical orders that won’t change conditions. Any case I do want to attend those orders 8-19 July 2024.

If I sign the 199 how long after can I expect orders?

Can I request a pause or particular retirement date? If you WHO do I contact so that the Army gives me enough time to out process. I know it’s reserves and there’s no leave etc

Any info would be appreciated
If you are being medically retired with LOD chapter 61 everything is processed on the active duty side. Its as if you retired AD. They typically have you out process at the nearest base that can do it. My wife was Fort McCoy in Wisconsin. She requested that she out process at Fort Riley and they granted it so that she could out process there instead.
 
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