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Title 32 Technician Medical Retirement Scenarios (Please limit posts to "Technician Medical Retirements")

Jmc81

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I hope I’m posting in the right place and not highjacking anyone’s thread.

I started the NDDES process yesterday. I am 44 years old with 22 years title 32 in the ANG, with 4 years ADAF service prior to that. I’ve developed significant food allergies to 4 major allergens (wheat, dairy, eggs, and soy) which has made eating and dealing with the allergic reactions a major issue. If I am deemed unfit and unable to deploy because they can’t feed me, what happens next? The Force Management lady told me that it could be 6 months for the med process and then another 6 months to get out of the technician side, but the memo I found here from 20 June says I will be forced out on the civilian side 30 days after military separation. We have saved money in case this happens, but what should I be doing now to make the process go smoothly and not leave us high and dry for insurance, etc.? We currently have GEHA insurance and SGLI. I’m married with three kids so the insurance is still really important for us.

Thanks in advance for guidance.
Hello there I was also a dual status t32 technician. I believe your timeline may be off some. This is how my timeline went May 2020 the pre MEB started. And I was not out of the military until November 2021. My timeline did take longer because I was trying to get a formal lod like others have said on here so that I could get Tricare. Trying to get an LOD took 5 months for them to say no. It is true They will not give you very much time and the technician slot once you've lose your military affiliation. But they were willing to work with me and let me burn sick leave and annually. Unfortunately I did not have very much sick leave so I am now in leave without pay status. I was informed there is no interim payments for medically retired fers only regular retired Fers. But you will get back paid from when paid leave ends. I was told by HR this process will take 3 to 4 months once it's initiated but that may have been false because once my technician package went to the army benefit center they told me to expect 6 to 9 months from the time that they received it for DFAS and others to process. I was also told that I could keep my insurance as long as I was in the leave without pay status and I would have to arrange to pay out of pocket the 400 and whatever a month. For me and my family insurance was very important also. December 22nd was the countdown for my 6 to 9 months to begin. So I will go many months without any pay from the technician side. The problem that held me up here lately was I needed my military retirement orders to process the furs retirement and they were behind on creating the military retirement at AFPC but my 30 countdown started and so I was out the door and the Fers retirement was at a standstill. I do believe the timelines can vary greatly but I would expect them to take very very long to complete and if your case becomes very complex expect even longer. I'm also in the Air National guard and I have a 90% VA rating now others on here have said if you get 30% you'll be medically discharged and that's not completely correct. The Air National guard has a way of saying prior service condition and some weird kind of way and then skirting the medical retirement on the military side. So the VA found that my conditions were related to military service and essentially the national guard denied it. And if you try to fight the National guard from others on here and my own experiences I believe it could take years in limbo status.
 
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Jesusej19

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Hello there I was also a dual status t32 technician. I believe your timeline may be off some. This is how my timeline went May 2020 the pre MEB started. And I was not out of the military until November 2021. My timeline did take longer because I was trying to get a formal lod like others have said on here so that I could get Tricare. Trying to get an LOD took 5 months for them to say no. It is true They will not give you very much time and the technician slot once you've lose your military affiliation. But they were willing to work with me and let me burn sick leave and annually. Unfortunately I did not have very much sick leave so I am now in leave without pay status. I was informed there is no interim payments for medically retired fers only regular retired Fers. But you will get back paid from when paid leave ends. I was told by HR this process will take 3 to 4 months once it's initiated but that may have been false because once my technician package went to the army benefit center they told me to expect 6 to 9 months from the time that they received it for DFAS and others to process. I was also told that I could keep my insurance as long as I was in the leave without pay status and I would have to arrange to pay out of pocket the 400 and whatever a month. For me and my family insurance was very important also. December 22nd was the countdown for my 6 to 9 months to begin. So I will go many months without any pay from the technician side. The problem that held me up here lately was I needed my military retirement orders to process the furs retirement and they were behind on creating the military retirement at AFPC but my 30 countdown started and so I was out the door and the Fers retirement was at a standstill. I do believe the timelines can vary greatly but I would expect them to take very very long to complete and if your case becomes very complex expect even longer. I'm also in the Air National guard and I have a 90% VA rating now others on here have said if you get 30% you'll be medically discharged and that's not completely correct. The Air National guard has a way of saying prior service condition and some weird kind of way and then skirting the medical retirement on the military side. So the VA found that my conditions were related to military service and essentially the national guard denied it. And if you try to fight the National guard from others on here and my own experiences I believe it could take years in limbo status.
Are you on the PDRL?
 

Jmc81

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Are you on the PDRL?
No on the military side I was found unfit for military service Due to medical conditions deemed not inline of duty which triggered a 15 year retirement on military side. I had 19 years of drill time. The loss of military membership as a dual status technician caused medical retirement on the technician side which I had 16 years in.
 

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No on the military side I was found unfit for military service Due to medical conditions deemed not inline of duty which triggered a 15 year retirement on military side. I had 19 years of drill time. The loss of military membership as a dual status technician caused medical retirement on the technician side which I had 16 years in.
Man, that sucks. Well glad you got the disability retirement from the tech side
 

Ullose272

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Hello there I was also a dual status t32 technician. I believe your timeline may be off some. This is how my timeline went May 2020 the pre MEB started. And I was not out of the military until November 2021. My timeline did take longer because I was trying to get a formal lod like others have said on here so that I could get Tricare. Trying to get an LOD took 5 months for them to say no. It is true They will not give you very much time and the technician slot once you've lose your military affiliation. But they were willing to work with me and let me burn sick leave and annually. Unfortunately I did not have very much sick leave so I am now in leave without pay status. I was informed there is no interim payments for medically retired fers only regular retired Fers. But you will get back paid from when paid leave ends. I was told by HR this process will take 3 to 4 months once it's initiated but that may have been false because once my technician package went to the army benefit center they told me to expect 6 to 9 months from the time that they received it for DFAS and others to process. I was also told that I could keep my insurance as long as I was in the leave without pay status and I would have to arrange to pay out of pocket the 400 and whatever a month. For me and my family insurance was very important also. December 22nd was the countdown for my 6 to 9 months to begin. So I will go many months without any pay from the technician side. The problem that held me up here lately was I needed my military retirement orders to process the furs retirement and they were behind on creating the military retirement at AFPC but my 30 countdown started and so I was out the door and the Fers retirement was at a standstill. I do believe the timelines can vary greatly but I would expect them to take very very long to complete and if your case becomes very complex expect even longer. I'm also in the Air National guard and I have a 90% VA rating now others on here have said if you get 30% you'll be medically discharged and that's not completely correct. The Air National guard has a way of saying prior service condition and some weird kind of way and then skirting the medical retirement on the military side. So the VA found that my conditions were related to military service and essentially the national guard denied it. And if you try to fight the National guard from others on here and my own experiences I believe it could take years in limbo status.
I got interim payments for medical disability retirement
 

Jmc81

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I got interim payments for medical disability retirement
I asked my HR lady I was working with if I could get interim payments and she told me no if it was a normal retirement I could but not medical retirement. Army benefits center also told me it would be 6to9 months without payment. It seems very wrong to me to put people in this position.
 

Ullose272

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I asked my HR lady I was working with if I could get interim payments and she told me no if it was a normal retirement I could but not medical retirement. Army benefits center also told me it would be 6to9 months without payment. It seems very wrong to me to put people in this position.
That is odd, both my HR and the ABC told me that i would. Mine was disablity, normal disability was denied, and was approved under public law. But that was after, i started getting interim payments not too long after being separated, like 6 weeks. But i wasnt denied til like 3 months after, then approved about a month after that, then all finalized about 5-6 after being separated. I doubt that air and army are different.
 

Jmc81

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That is odd, both my HR and the ABC told me that i would. Mine was disablity, normal disability was denied, and was approved under public law. But that was after, i started getting interim payments not too long after being separated, like 6 weeks. But i wasnt denied til like 3 months after, then approved about a month after that, then all finalized about 5-6 after being separated. I doubt that air and army are different.
I just collected my last check last little over a week ago last day in paid leave status was the 31. If I get an interim payment in the next few weeks I will get on here and let you guys know. Same thing they told me I will have to be processed as normal disability and it will most likely be denied because the disabled under special provision for dual status technician is basically better in some ways.
 

Jesusej19

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I just collected my last check last little over a week ago last day in paid leave status was the 31. If I get an interim payment in the next few weeks I will get on here and let you guys know. Same thing they told me I will have to be processed as normal disability and it will most likely be denied because the disabled under special provision for dual status technician is basically better in some ways.
Please do, I’m going through this right now. Thank you for keeping this thread updated.
 
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