what points are used to calculate severance pay? Air national guard

[Ullose272]

what points are used to calculate my years for severance pay? in one place it looked like retirement points, and in another it said AD and IDT. the table pasted weird, the total points need to be pushed one column to the right. 1127 AD, 0142 IDT, 1915 retire

Service History - ANG/USAFR Point Credit Summary Inquiry (PCARS) - vMPF

From Date	Thru Date	AD	IDT	ECI	IDS	MBR	Total	Retire	Sat. Svc.
Total points accrued through 15 JAN 2020:	1127	0466	0142	0000	180	01915	01915	120000
16 JAN 2008	15 JAN 2009	0241	0017	0000	0000	015	00273	00273	010000
16 JAN 2009	15 JAN 2010	0034	0053	0013	0000	015	00115	00115	010000
16 JAN 2010	15 JAN 2011	0039	0042	0018	0000	015	00114	00114	010000
16 JAN 2011	15 JAN 2012	0008	0046	0000	0000	015	00069	00069	010000
16 JAN 2012	15 JAN 2013	0018	0050	0018	0000	015	00101	00101	010000
16 JAN 2013	15 JAN 2014	0025	0050	0024	0000	015	00114	00114	010000
16 JAN 2014	15 JAN 2015	0029	0056	0000	0000	015	00100	00100	010000
16 JAN 2015	15 JAN 2016	0280	0016	0000	0000	015	00311	00311	010000
16 JAN 2016	15 JAN 2017	0191	0016	0050	0000	015	00272	00272	010000
16 JAN 2017	15 JAN 2018	0017	0052	0000	0000	015	00084	00084	010000
16 JAN 2018	15 JAN 2019	0030	0046	0019	0000	015	00110	00110	010000
16 JAN 2019	15 JAN 2020	0215	0022	0000	0000	015	00252	00252	010000

 

[RonG]

Hello,

DFAS: "Disability severance pay is a one-time lump sum payment. The amount equals 2 months of basic pay for each year of service which includes active service and inactive duty points, but the total service years cannot exceed 19 years. Additionally, the minimum number of years required for computation purposes is six years for a disability incurred in the line of duty in a combat zone, or 3 years in the case of any other member. Prior to January 28, 2008, a maximum of 12 years and minimum of three years creditable service was used."

I suspect it is similar to computing retired pay which is:
Total Creditable Points divided by 360.

How to Read an Air Force Reserve – Air National Guard Retirement Points Statement​

Explicit instructions are at this page: How to Read an Air Force Reserve – Air National Guard Retirement Points Statement | R.C. Retirement.com <----LINK
"“Retire,” shows the number of points earned or the points remaining after the point limits above have been applied. Only this column will be used when computing what your retired pay will be."


Ron

 

[RonG]

See Using points to Calculate a Reserve Retirement:
LINK <----

Excerpt:
A Reserve retirement is based on the Points we have discussed throughout this article. For the purpose of retirement, we can equate 1 Point to the equivalent of one day of Active Duty service.

An Active Duty retirement is worth 2.5% of your base pay for each year you served (for the High Pay and High-3 retirement plans). For example, a 20 year retirement is worth 50% of your base pay (20 years times 2.5% = 50.0%). Partial years are calculated in a similar manner Months are worth 1/12 of a year, and days are worth ⅓0th of a month.

The Reserve retirement starts by taking your total number of Points and dividing by 360 (Remember, the military considers a month as 30 days for pay purposes, so each day is worth ⅓0th of a month; 12 months would then equal 360 days).

So if you take my example above of an estimated 3,500 Retirement Points, we would come up with 9 years, 8 months, and 20 days. This would then be calculated against the pay scales to determine the value of the pension (there are also pay scales that show the actual dollar value for each Point, depending on your rank and time in service; these charts can be found in the Guard and Reserve Fact Sheets).

But since I’m fond of using rough estimates when I make my calculations (especially since I am so far away from actually reaching retirement), I would round up to 3,600 Retirement Points before making my calculations. 3,600 / 360 equals the equivalent of 10 years on Active Duty for retirement purposes. Based on this estimate, I can take the 10 years and multiply that by 2.5% and come up with a pension that would be worth roughly 25% of the active duty base pay, based on my pay grade and years of service at retirement.

Again, these are all rough estimates, but for my purposes, it works very well to get a big picture idea. If you need a more exact reference, then you should use the Guard / Reserve Retirement Calculator for your branch of service (most of them are behind login screens on the official military websites, so I don’t have a good link right now).
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Ron

 

[Ullose272]

Hello,

DFAS: "Disability severance pay is a one-time lump sum payment. The amount equals 2 months of basic pay for each year of service which includes active service and inactive duty points, but the total service years cannot exceed 19 years. Additionally, the minimum number of years required for computation purposes is six years for a disability incurred in the line of duty in a combat zone, or 3 years in the case of any other member. Prior to January 28, 2008, a maximum of 12 years and minimum of three years creditable service was used."

I suspect it is similar to computing retired pay which is:
Total Creditable Points divided by 360.

Ron
(never served in a reserve capacity)

So is that 1915 or the approx 1600 of AD and IDT?

 

[RonG]

So is that 1915 or the approx 1600 of AD and IDT?

Hello @Ullose272 ,

Before I compute CRSC, retired pay, etc., for RC members, I ask them to provide their active duty equivalent, NOT total points. I was not in the reserves and have little familiarity with the forms and many of the practices of the RC. Recommend you ask your command to verify your active duty equivalent.

See Using points to Calculate a Reserve Retirement:
LINK <----

1-2 Retirement Points History a. When awarding retirement points a member is only entitled to a defined maximum of Individual Duty Training (IDT), Extension Course and Membership points per year. However, RPAS will allow entrance of more points and display them but it will not count in the total points. Retirement points credited for activities other than active service or Funeral Honors as defined as IDT and Membership points may not exceed:
(1) Prior to 23 Sep 1996: 60 point rule in effect
(2) On or after 23 Sep 1996: 75 point rule in effect
(3) On or after 30 Oct 2000: 90 point rule in effect
(4) On or after 30 Oct 2007: 130 point rule in effect b. All active duty training is credited. However, a Soldier can only receive credit for a maximum of 365 (366 in a leap year) retirement points in a year.

Army Reserve Retirement Points Information Guide
Army Reserve Retirement Point Information Guide 14 May 2018.pdf <---LINK



cc: @Guardguy11 @SFC H

Ron

 

[Ullose272]

Hello @Ullose272 ,

Before I compute CRSC, retired pay, etc., for RC members, I ask them to provide their active duty equivalent, NOT total points. I was not in the reserves and have little familiarity with the forms and many of the practices of the RC. Recommend you ask your command to verify your active duty equivalent.

See Using points to Calculate a Reserve Retirement:
LINK <----

1-2 Retirement Points History a. When awarding retirement points a member is only entitled to a defined maximum of Individual Duty Training (IDT), Extension Course and Membership points per year. However, RPAS will allow entrance of more points and display them but it will not count in the total points. Retirement points credited for activities other than active service or Funeral Honors as defined as IDT and Membership points may not exceed:
(1) Prior to 23 Sep 1996: 60 point rule in effect
(2) On or after 23 Sep 1996: 75 point rule in effect
(3) On or after 30 Oct 2000: 90 point rule in effect
(4) On or after 30 Oct 2007: 130 point rule in effect b. All active duty training is credited. However, a Soldier can only receive credit for a maximum of 365 (366 in a leap year) retirement points in a year.

Army Reserve Retirement Points Information Guide
Army Reserve Retirement Point Information Guide 14 May 2018.pdf <---LINK



cc: @Guardguy11 @SFC H

Ron

b) DISABILITY SEVERANCE PAY COMPUTATION. If you are discharged with entitlement to
disability severance pay, you will receive a lump sum severance payment equal to 2 months of base
pay for each year of service, up to 19 years, but not less than 3 years for non-combat related
conditions and not less than 6 years for combat related conditions. There is no maximum dollar
amount for disability severance pay. For the purpose of computing severance pay, a part of a year
of active service that is six months or more is counted as a whole year, and a part of a year that is
less than six months is disregarded. For example, if you have 2 years, 7 months active service, you
are credited with 3 years of service when computing severance pay. For Air Reserve Component
members, years of service is computed as retirement points divided by 360.

The last sentence of this make me think they use the "retire" points total?

 

[RonG]

b) DISABILITY SEVERANCE PAY COMPUTATION. If you are discharged with entitlement to...

For Air Reserve Component
members, years of service is computed as retirement points divided by 360.

The last sentence of this make me think they use the "retire" points total?

I agree (based on what I have read).

See linked info below: "The next column, “Retire,” shows the number of points earned or the points remaining after the point limits above have been applied. Only this column will be used when computing what your retired pay will be."

How to Read an Air Force Reserve – Air National Guard Retirement Points Statement​

Explicit instructions are at this page: How to Read an Air Force Reserve – Air National Guard Retirement Points Statement | R.C. Retirement.com <----LINK

Ron