Adsep but should be a MEB?

emjanusz1

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My husband has been seeing mental health on base since 2016. Our base (AF) recent got a new psychiatrist that my husband had an appointment with. He told him that his medication (zoloft, 200mg) wasn't working anymore and that he needed something different. The psychiatrist made the remark that "he wasn't going to change my husband's medication and that he needed to try harder in therapy" and scheduled him a 6 week follow up. My husband's diagnoses through the base are C-PTSD and Severe MDD without psychotic features.

We ended up paying out of pocket to go to an off base provider and my husband was diagnosed with cyclothymia (bipolar umbrella) and prescribed vraylar. He's doing SO much better. We've made sure to let the base know exactly what is going on every step of the way, sending all the notes, etc. At our most recent appointment with his on base psychiatrist he kept yelling that it was a "patient safety issue" and is now refusing to prescribe my husband his zoloft (or anything for that matter) and is also refusing to refer him off base. He is also going to recommend him for an admin sep. He's been in for 8 years, never been in trouble.

I've been reading AFI's to try and find a loophole to get an MEB for him. He's served in an imminent danger zone, has service-connected PTSD, no misconduct. Will the air force automatically dual action him if they admin sep him? I just don't want him to be punished for trying to help himself.

Thanks in advance everyone.
 
Don't know about AF. For Navy, if you go outside the service, and get your own anti-depressants or psychotropics, you can absolutely get ADSEPed. I've personally known 3 Shipmates it happened to.

Also, *you* can't get an MEB. It has to be initiated by a military doc. And this one doesn't seem inclined to help.

You guys may be screwed. I don't know what else to tell you.
 
For sure dont do anything unless the AF tells you too, or authorizes it. Make them give you a different provider all you gotta do is ask, i was navy stationed on a AF base, and when i got sent to the AF mental health clinic they did absolutely nothing, but once i got back to a navy base they rolled out the MEB board red carpet and med retired me faster than i could figure out what was going on with 15 years in. Even if they MED sep you, you can still get VA compensation and you would 6 months of Tricare called TAMP, for you spouse and kids. And if you get seperated for PTSD its an automatic 50 percent VA.
 
They start out everyone with zoloft, and the basics, but as you build a case they try this and try that mediciation to basically give you a steady medication, they wanna resolve your symptoms with non habit forming meds, they dont want everyone taking Valium and Xanax ive been to ER 6 different times with heart attack like symptoms caused by severe anxiety attacks and panic attacks they poked and probed everywhere they could and was given hydroxyzine and kicked out the door. But the thing is they have to experiment with you and you have to be 100 percent honest with them down to the very last thought.
 
For sure dont do anything unless the AF tells you too, or authorizes it. Make them give you a different provider all you gotta do is ask, i was navy stationed on a AF base, and when i got sent to the AF mental health clinic they did absolutely nothing, but once i got back to a navy base they rolled out the MEB board red carpet and med retired me faster than i could figure out what was going on with 15 years in. Even if they MED sep you, you can still get VA compensation and you would 6 months of Tricare called TAMP, for you spouse and kids. And if you get seperated for PTSD its an automatic 50 percent VA.
He asked for a different provider (he would have to be referred off base for this because our base only has one psychiatrist) and they refused.
 
He asked for a different provider (he would have to be referred off base for this because our base only has one psychiatrist) and they refused.
We also asked to be transferred to a different MTF in order to see a different military provider and they refused that as well.
 
Visit tricare office there at base if they have one and explain to them that you want a new provider, i believe you can even file a conplaint as well.
 
If they give you a referral the doctor they refer you to provides all notes to tricare and they semd scripts to base pharmacy as well
 
We tried that, they said that they could "edit a referral but not create one". I put in a complaint to tricare, the joint commission, and the medical board for the provider's license. I don't really know what else to do at this point. We've made sure that they've gotten every single note/prescription so they can't accuse us of hiding anything. We're supposed to have a treatment team in the next few weeks but my husband's commander is leaving so not sure how that will mess up things. Just ready for all of this to be over.
 
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