Correlation between DoD PDRL and VA P&T

CrustyGrunt

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Recently retired and received my ratings. My retirement is a disability retirement and placement on PDRL. I was a COAD as well. I am 100% DoD and VA with SMC-S, however my VA rating is not P&T. Is there correlation between PDRL for one unfitting condition and a VA P&T rating? I am trying to figure out if an appeal is needed. I have found conflicting articles regarding the whole P&T status. I understand PDRL and VA P&T are dealing with two different organizations (DoD/VA). Just trying to figure out why my one unfitting condition qualified me for PDRL but is the only condition listed in my ratings as subject to re-evaluation.
 
CrustyGrunt said:
Recently retired and received my ratings. My retirement is a disability retirement and placement on PDRL. I was a COAD as well. I am 100% DoD and VA with SMC-S, however my VA rating is not P&T. Is there correlation between PDRL for one unfitting condition and a VA P&T rating? I am trying to figure out if an appeal is needed. I have found conflicting articles regarding the whole P&T status. I understand PDRL and VA P&T are dealing with two different organizations (DoD/VA). Just trying to figure out why my one unfitting condition qualified me for PDRL but is the only condition listed in my ratings as subject to re-evaluation.
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The VA rater will determine “permanence” of a VA disability if it is reasonably certain, based upon medical evidence, that the level of impairment will
continue for the rest of your life.

The rater likely did not even consider the PDRL (which likely had yet to be decided).

Most VA ratings are not classified as permanent. That does not mean they will be reduced.

Ron
 
RonG said:
The VA rater will determine “permanence” of a VA disability if it is reasonably certain, based upon medical evidence, that the level of impairment will
continue for the rest of your life.

The rater likely did not even consider the PDRL (which likely had yet to be decided).

Most VA ratings are not classified as permanent. That does not mean they will be reduced.

Ron
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Ron,
Thanks for the response. My PDRL was decided since I was a COAD and had to resubmit my claims at the end of my COAD period. Basically I was told to submit a BDD claim at the end of my COAD period since it was for over 1 year.
 
What was your experience requesting the COAD? I will not hit 20 years until April 2024 and started IDES in February. I think I can just delay but have COAD in my back pocket.
 
Down the line, is switching between your VA or DOD compensation possible if the advantage changes or are you locked in?
 
RuffBader said:
Down the line, is switching between your VA or DOD compensation possible if the advantage changes or are you locked in?
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Yes, but...it is never more advantageous to elect DoD over VA
because
the VA offset is dollar for dollar in the amount of VA comp received. In other words, in many cases there is residual (left over) retired pay from the VA offset.

Example, accepting VA comp:
2000 retired pay
VA comp 950
retired pay 2000 minus 950 results in 1050 residual retired pay
Plus
VA comp at 950 = 2000

Declining VA comp (actually declining to waive retired pay dollar for dollar...)
The retiree receives 2000 retired pay, often taxable.

VA compensation is always nontaxable.



Ron
Also--CRSC is not payable without VA waiver
 
RuffBader said:
Down the line, is switching between your VA or DOD compensation possible if the advantage changes or are you locked in?
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There is never an advantage to decline VA compensation but the answer to your question yes.
 
RonG said:
Yes, but...it is never more advantageous to elect DoD over VA
because
the VA offset is dollar for dollar in the amount of VA comp received. In other words, in many cases there is residual (left over) retired pay from the VA offset.

Example, accepting VA comp:
2000 retired pay
VA comp 950
retired pay 2000 minus 950 results in 1050 residual retired pay
Plus
VA comp at 950 = 2000

Declining VA comp (actually declining to waive retired pay dollar for dollar...)
The retiree receives 2000 retired pay, often taxable.

VA compensation is always nontaxable.



Ron
Also--CRSC is not payable without VA waiver
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Does this hold true even for people who haven’t hit 20 or is this only for 20yr retirees?
 
RuffBader said:
Does this hold true even for people who haven’t hit 20 or is this only for 20yr retirees?
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Yes it holds true.

There are hundreds of examples of that on this web site. Maybe thousands... KEY WORD FOR Search = residual

Ron
 
faoman said:
What was your experience requesting the COAD? I will not hit 20 years until April 2024 and started IDES in February. I think I can just delay but have COAD in my back pocket.
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It was pretty cut and dry. My PEB ended and I dropped my packet the same day. I was like you, already prepared. My packet was complete and ready in July and my PEB ended in September, so I was locked and loaded.
 
Kangaroo914 said:
Does everyone qualify for the VA offset, or do you have to be CRSC?
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I think you might misunderstand the process.

The VA offset amount is a negative. Retired pay reduced dollar for dollar in the amount of VA compensation received is the VA OFFSET.

RESIDUAL RETIRED PAY is the amount of retired pay remaining after the VA OFFSET. It applies to everyone IF it pertains to their situation. Many disability retirees do not have retired pay remaining after the VA OFFSET.

It is not predicated on receipt of CRSC. However, for those receiving CRSC, the combination of CRSC and residual retired pay cannot exceed the longevity portion of retired pay.

Ron
 
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