For years of service do they round up once you get past 6 months? By the time my DOS rolls around in roughly August (after terminal leave and PTDY), I will be at exactly 8 years and 6 months. Will they round up to 9 years or do they calculate months as well in the severance equation?
Disability Severance years of service calcuation
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Hello @Justanotherradarguy
Disability severance pay is a one-time lump sum payment. The amount equals 2 months of basic pay for each year of service which includes active service and inactive duty points, but the total service years cannot exceed 19 years. Additionally, the minimum number of years required for computation purposes is six years for a disability incurred in the line of duty in a combat zone, or 3 years in the case of any other member. Prior to January 28, 2008, a maximum of 12 years and minimum of three years creditable service was used.
10 U.S. Code § 1212 - Disability severance pay
10 U.S. Code § 1212 - Disability severance pay <---LINK(b)
For the purposes of subsection (a), a part of a year of active service that is six months or more is counted as a whole year, and a part of a year that is less than six months is disregarded.
Ron
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So, I have a dilemma I'm currently on terminal leave I'm an MEB, and I have been on active duty three different times, was also in the national guard and in the reserve. For some reason when I ETS the first time out of active duty someone changed my entry date into active duty to a month later. so, I initially came in 19980915, it got changed to 19981014, and now it got changed to 19981107.
I brought this up the day of my final out for this MEB and the lady in transitions doing my final out, She and I walked to the separation finance office and brought this issue up, the lady handling my separation finance told transitions yes amended the orders but there won't be a recalculation of the severance pay because it's not much money.
While I was out-processing, they needed me to prove that I had 16 years of active-duty service, so I turned in a DA form 1506 a career counselor did back in 2019, me trusting that senior NCO I thought it was squared away. Now on terminal leave I went back and took a look at that DA Form 1506 I noticed some stuff doesn't seem right. From my understanding transitions went off that career counselor's 1506 he did for my timeline and did not do their own to calculate my time in service.
Now I'm finding some things wrong with that form 1506. I have reached out to the supervisor of the separation finance office he referred to the retirement individual on fort sill all she did was listen to one question and when I tried asking her another question, she didn't let me speak and kept saying go to transitions and to ask them what they included for my time in service.
I was only referred to a retirement individual on fort sill so she can help re-calculate my DA Form 1506 and check if what I have is calculated correctly. what could I do here should I just MEB and put this behind me or keep pressing the matter?
Oh, another thing I was also activated back in Dec of 2001 to help out for 9/11 at the Lincoln Tunnel for NYC/NJ crossing, that activation for some reason is not in my MYPAY I only got copies of orders and an award I received for that activation i have proof of all this I am mentioning. Like I asked should I keep pressing on this matter?
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Hello @dozskills
This is the governing regulation for preparation of the DA 1506 and associated actions: AR 637-1 LINK <—-
Recommend you read the section pertaining to the DA 1506.
I am confident the Army’s personnel and finance procedures have changed since I retired 31 years ago. However, I would start with your S-1 and the local personnel office.
It would be best to have this resolved before your separation date; however, you can file for a correction to military records after your separation.
I am sure you already know this, but Personnel, the command, and the individual soldier have a responsibility to ensure records are accurate. This “error” should have been addressed long ago.
I wish you the best of luck in this matter.
Ron
This is the governing regulation for preparation of the DA 1506 and associated actions: AR 637-1 LINK <—-
Recommend you read the section pertaining to the DA 1506.
I am confident the Army’s personnel and finance procedures have changed since I retired 31 years ago. However, I would start with your S-1 and the local personnel office.
It would be best to have this resolved before your separation date; however, you can file for a correction to military records after your separation.
I am sure you already know this, but Personnel, the command, and the individual soldier have a responsibility to ensure records are accurate. This “error” should have been addressed long ago.
I wish you the best of luck in this matter.
Ron
So, after I went around and asked a DFAS rep to get a mediator to get involved, then the Fort Sill separation finance director called me a week ago on 2nd Dec. When we spoke, I brought up my questions and explained the situation. I was grateful she was willing to listen, but one thing she said stood out, that was that the transition civilian who handles my separation didn't have a current 1506, the only thing she had was the front page of a DA FORM 1506. After serving in all three components of the army, I would think my 1506 would be more than one page long. The finance director also mentioned even though I had 1506 from the career counselor back in 2019, this 1506 was not valid, because, for my Med board, a current up-to-date DA FORM 1506 needs to be done specifically because the form has been updated to (DA FORM 1506, JAN 2022). This seems to me like a mishandling of the discharge of my military career, now I'm probably a nuisance to the Fort Sill transitions and Separation Finance Team.
Hello @dozskills
Re: "...but one thing she said stood out, that was that the transition civilian who handles my separation didn't have a current 1506, the only thing she had was the front page of a DA FORM 1506. After serving in all three components of the army, I would think my 1506 would be more than one page long. The finance director also mentioned even though I had 1506 from the career counselor back in 2019, this 1506 was not valid, because, for my Med board, a current up-to-date DA FORM 1506 needs to be done specifically because the form has been updated to (DA FORM 1506, JAN 2022)."
I can understand the need for a new DA Form 1506 and possibly a DA Form 1506-1 which is a continuation page/form since the old form is obsolete. However, the old DA 1506 might be used to complete at least part of the required information. Your retained copies of documents you have received over the years could help with the "reconstruction."
You might consider contacting the U.S. Army Human Resources Command.
Phone Number:
1-888-ARMYHRC
cc: @Provis @Guardguy11 @chaplaincharlie
Good luck,
Ron
Re: "...but one thing she said stood out, that was that the transition civilian who handles my separation didn't have a current 1506, the only thing she had was the front page of a DA FORM 1506. After serving in all three components of the army, I would think my 1506 would be more than one page long. The finance director also mentioned even though I had 1506 from the career counselor back in 2019, this 1506 was not valid, because, for my Med board, a current up-to-date DA FORM 1506 needs to be done specifically because the form has been updated to (DA FORM 1506, JAN 2022)."
I can understand the need for a new DA Form 1506 and possibly a DA Form 1506-1 which is a continuation page/form since the old form is obsolete. However, the old DA 1506 might be used to complete at least part of the required information. Your retained copies of documents you have received over the years could help with the "reconstruction."
You might consider contacting the U.S. Army Human Resources Command.
Phone Number:
1-888-ARMYHRC
cc: @Provis @Guardguy11 @chaplaincharlie
Good luck,
Ron
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In the Dec 2nd conversation, I did say I have a copy of the 1506 that was done back in 2019 and the Sep finance director said it twice that's not valid anymore because that specific form is no more active and there's a new one and because I'm an MEB it needs to be done in conjunction with your MEB. I did also ask why my entry date has changed two other different times from my original she couldn't tell me, but I had them order too so all that they now have and even my time when I was activated for 9/11 while in the NJ National Guard there was a month missing, I asked why, and she told me send her the orders. It's been over a week, and I have a feeling I might just get it corrected after I'm out because I'll be out on the 27th
Hello,
I am trying to figure out my medical separation severance pay.
I served for 2 years active, then 1 year in the National Guard, then 5 years of IRR, and then after a long break in service I came back in and have served another 11 years of active duty. I'm being medically separated, but have no idea how much the severance pay would be. In calculating the severance pay, do I count the 5 years of IRR? Are they worth anything? Any help is appreciated.
I am trying to figure out my medical separation severance pay.
I served for 2 years active, then 1 year in the National Guard, then 5 years of IRR, and then after a long break in service I came back in and have served another 11 years of active duty. I'm being medically separated, but have no idea how much the severance pay would be. In calculating the severance pay, do I count the 5 years of IRR? Are they worth anything? Any help is appreciated.
Hello,
Your active duty equivalent will be used, subject to the rounding of months discussed earlier in this thread .
Your disability retirement orders will show the active duty equivalent as: DISABILITY RETIREMENT: xx YEARS xx MONTHS xx DAYS
The following is the authority:
10 U.S. Code § 12733 - Computation of retired pay: computation of years of service
For the purpose of computing the retired pay of a person under this chapter, the person’s years of service and any fraction of such a year are computed by dividing 360 into the sum of the following: (1)The person’s days of active service.(2)The person’s days of full-time service under sections 316, 502, 503, 504, and 505 of title 32 while performing annual training duty or while attending a prescribed course of instruction at a school designated as a service school by law or by the Secretary concerned.(3)One day for each point credited to the person under clause (B), (C), (D), or (F) of section 12732(a)(2) of this title, but not more than—(A)60 days in any one year of service before the year of service that includes September 23, 1996;(B)75 days in the year of service that includes September 23, 1996, and in any subsequent year of service before the year of service that includes October 30, 2000;(C)90 days in the year of service that includes October 30, 2000, and in any subsequent year of service before the year of service that includes October 30, 2007; and(D)130 days in the year of service that includes October 30, 2007, and in any subsequent year of service.(4)One day for each point credited to the person under subparagraph (E) of section 12732(a)(2) of this title.(5)One day for each point credited to the person under subparagraph (F) of section 12732(a)(2) of this title.(6)50 days for each year before July 1, 1949, and proportionately for each fraction of a year, of service (other than active service) in a reserve component of an armed force, in the Army or the Air Force without component, or in any other category covered by section 12732(a)(1) of this title, except a regular component.
Ron