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CluelessNAlmostOutOfTime

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Hi,

Short story, hubby was reservist, got activated Feb ’21 and June ‘21 was started down the MEB/PEB/FPEB route (PEB was Dec ‘21 and FPEB was June ‘22) via IDES.

His deployment ended Nov ‘21 before even the first board convened, and he was deactivated and sent home. This is where things start to go wronfrom an administrative point of view - everyone had been processing his MEB and subsequent everything as if he was active duty, not activated reserves - no matter how many times he informed them of such. When he was sent home, our address has a state between us and his home unit. Instead of being moved to the nearest unit to home of record and extended on a 12301(h) order, they just sent him home.
This left him high and dry for administrative assistance and support during this process as nobody wanted to acknowledge responsibility for him (home unit - we are reserves and don’t do MEB here, and besides, you live in a difficult area of responsibility… Area we live in - your home unit should deal with it) so we had to get by with what help I found on here (Thanks by the way - it did help. I just wish that I had known about this site at the beginning of our process) and from local support. Finally after the FPEB was lost in June he was discharged from service in early Aug ‘22. Some point between the FPEB and the discharge we were informed that his IDES account had been closed.

After all that, and waiting forever on the VA (he had an initial rating of 50% total back in Nov ‘21) we finally received a letter from them. The following is a cut and paste directly from the letter.


“Our records show that you were referred into the Integrated Disability Evaluation System (IDES) program on July **, 2021, while you were on active duty.

Your application submitted during the IDES process constitutes a claim for VA benefits only if the IDES process results in your separation from service. On August **, 2022, your military service department notified us that you have been (or will be) administratively separated and disenrolled from the IDES process. Therefore, VA will not render a decision regarding VA benefits based on the application that you submitted during the IDES process and will close this matter.

Unless we hear from you, VA will take no further action on your IDES claim.“


Have any of you heard of this before? Or have any advice for us on what to do now? Nobody I have spoken to so far has ever heard of anything similar and are completely perplexed as to what is going on, or what to do about it.

Thanks for your time and patience on this one.
 
CluelessNAlmostOutOfTime said:
Hi,

Short story, hubby was reservist, got activated Feb ’21 and June ‘21 was started down the MEB/PEB/FPEB route (PEB was Dec ‘21 and FPEB was June ‘22) via IDES.

His deployment ended Nov ‘21 before even the first board convened, and he was deactivated and sent home. This is where things start to go wronfrom an administrative point of view - everyone had been processing his MEB and subsequent everything as if he was active duty, not activated reserves - no matter how many times he informed them of such. When he was sent home, our address has a state between us and his home unit. Instead of being moved to the nearest unit to home of record and extended on a 12301(h) order, they just sent him home.
This left him high and dry for administrative assistance and support during this process as nobody wanted to acknowledge responsibility for him (home unit - we are reserves and don’t do MEB here, and besides, you live in a difficult area of responsibility… Area we live in - your home unit should deal with it) so we had to get by with what help I found on here (Thanks by the way - it did help. I just wish that I had known about this site at the beginning of our process) and from local support. Finally after the FPEB was lost in June he was discharged from service in early Aug ‘22. Some point between the FPEB and the discharge we were informed that his IDES account had been closed.

After all that, and waiting forever on the VA (he had an initial rating of 50% total back in Nov ‘21) we finally received a letter from them. The following is a cut and paste directly from the letter.


“Our records show that you were referred into the Integrated Disability Evaluation System (IDES) program on July **, 2021, while you were on active duty.

Your application submitted during the IDES process constitutes a claim for VA benefits only if the IDES process results in your separation from service. On August **, 2022, your military service department notified us that you have been (or will be) administratively separated and disenrolled from the IDES process. Therefore, VA will not render a decision regarding VA benefits based on the application that you submitted during the IDES process and will close this matter.

Unless we hear from you, VA will take no further action on your IDES claim.“


Have any of you heard of this before? Or have any advice for us on what to do now? Nobody I have spoken to so far has ever heard of anything similar and are completely perplexed as to what is going on, or what to do about it.

Thanks for your time and patience on this one.
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I just deleted my last reply after reading your other posts. Has your husband been moved to the retired reserves? If so, they discharged him without severance and put him in gray area retirement until he reaches the age for a non regular retirement (Non Regular retirement is age 60 or less if reduced due to qualify deployments). It sounds like he is out and needs to apply for VA benefits and then apply for his non regular retirement once he is eligible. Good Luck!
 
Hi,
yes is now retired reserves. So we have to go through the whole VA benefits application process again? Because we were literally waiting on whom was reviewing it to make a decision (apparently their decision was no because of the letter we received) but having gone through the process of MEB and having already received a provisional rating of 50% it just seems an exercise in bureaucracy to m us go through it all over again because he went and was transferred to the retired reserves.
We literally were telling everyone at every stage that he was reservist, and had been processed incorrectly, and nobody did anything about it - until things went wrong (which they did at every turn - even his discharge date was ignored and happened over a week late after we pointed it out to several people, gradually going up a chain of command until we found someone who could do something about it) as we expected. But he *should* have stayed on the IDES until after the last FPEB (he did) and then get passed to VA as far as I understand it.

Am I wrong? Will we really need to start everything again? And if we do, will the initial application date be the original one that has just been denied, or the date of the new application?
 
What branch? Not sure if it matters or not, but maybe there are service-level policies to look into?
 
CluelessNAlmostOutOfTime said:
Hi,
yes is now retired reserves. So we have to go through the whole VA benefits application process again? Because we were literally waiting on whom was reviewing it to make a decision (apparently their decision was no because of the letter we received) but having gone through the process of MEB and having already received a provisional rating of 50% it just seems an exercise in bureaucracy to m us go through it all over again because he went and was transferred to the retired reserves.
We literally were telling everyone at every stage that he was reservist, and had been processed incorrectly, and nobody did anything about it - until things went wrong (which they did at every turn - even his discharge date was ignored and happened over a week late after we pointed it out to several people, gradually going up a chain of command until we found someone who could do something about it) as we expected. But he *should* have stayed on the IDES until after the last FPEB (he did) and then get passed to VA as far as I understand it.

Am I wrong? Will we really need to start everything again? And if we do, will the initial application date be the original one that has just been denied, or the date of the new application?
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So I don't believe anything was done incorrectly. What happened was your husband's final rating was 0% and due to having 20 good years he was discharged and moved to retired reserve status. He is no longer a Reservist and of course not active as a Reservist. Since your husband was put in the retired reserves instead of being discharged with severance the proposed VA ratings didn't stick. So he should apply for VA benefits now.
 
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