LIMDU for Mental Health

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Archiemanz

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So this post is probably going to be unorganized. I’ve been on here for a few months reading a lot, and finally decided to reach out for some input on my situation. Any help at all would be appreciated!

I have only been in the Navy for 2 years now, and honestly have had a great intro into the Navy. Until about 10 months ago, when on a detachment to another state. While there I was out with a friend from my command having a good time, when I went off by myself for about 10 minutes to make a phone call. While that was happening, I was jumped by 3 locals, and they beat me up pretty badly, being kicked in the head repeatedly, and they tried to rob me, I was able to run away somehow, even though I was decently intoxicated (I think that’s the only way I was able to get away). Anywho, I let my CoCknow immediately, and eventually it made it to CAG level. Where I was interviewed about it. I was strongly advised by my immediate chain of command to not seek Mental Health support and try to brush it off. I was new at my command still and given the advice I recieved I didn’t make any effort to seek help, and suppressed everything.
By November timeline my wife had suggested I seek some help, and some of my coworkers also suggested it. I saw a therapist once a month for 2 months, and eventually was recommended to see a Psychiatrist. January 2020, I went to My first appointment and I
was immediately put on LIMDU for PTSD symptoms, also was Put on a couple different medications. I am currently at a sea going command.
So now that all of that is out of the way, my questions will start.
1. It’s Been almost 4 months and I have not received limdu orders, is this normal?
2. My symptoms have not gotten better, but I’ve only got until July left for LIMDU and have changed medications and raised strength level a few different times. Is it likely for me to get another LIMDU?
I also am fine with getting MED sep’d, so how a meb/peb get started?
My symptoms interfere heavily with my job, as I work with a lot of numbers, and memeroy, which has all been affected. I’m suppose to be seen for a TBI also, but that has never been scheduled. That’s all I think I should post for now, any help whatsoever is appreciated!
 
There aren’t LIMDU orders unless you are going no-cost TAD for desk duty or being sent to Transient Personnel Unit.

If your symptoms persist and the psychiatrist thinks you are unfit to do your job, they can recommend you for MEB or give you a second LIMDU period.

to be frank, without knowing the severity and persistence of your symptoms, we can’t make a guess of what will happen to you. Your PCM May decide to send you back to duty if he/she believes a PEB will determine a FIT finding. Based on what you’ve said so far, I think there’s a good chance they will find you FIT. They may even suggest cross rating.
 
DeepSeaTexan said:
There aren’t LIMDU orders unless you are going no-cost TAD for desk duty or being sent to Transient Personnel Unit.

If your symptoms persist and the psychiatrist thinks you are unfit to do your job, they can recommend you for MEB or give you a second LIMDU period.

to be frank, without knowing the severity and persistence of your symptoms, we can’t make a guess of what will happen to you. Your PCM May decide to send you back to duty if he/she believes a PEB will determine a FIT finding. Based on what you’ve said so far, I think there’s a good chance they will find you FIT. They may even suggest cross rating.
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Some of the what’s going on; I have a very hard time sleeping, when I do sleep, I have very vivid nightmares, and I get woken up by them throughout the night constantly. Then during the day, very depressed/paranoid/negative thoughts. I am constantly reliving the experience from even going to the grocery store. I get extreme panic attacks, and it makes me not want to leave the house. My memory and focus has went to shit. I know there’s a lot missing, but I realized you are right, it’s definitely things I need to discuss more with my PCM.
 
Glad you're still with us. Yes it is normal to be TAD somewhere without orders. You current command and your substituting command will work something through the admin chain to get you new orders once they see fit usually. Just keep going to your appointments, and get all of the help you can. Tri care is amazing.
 
Archiemanz said:
Some of the what’s going on; I have a very hard time sleeping, when I do sleep, I have very vivid nightmares, and I get woken up by them throughout the night constantly. Then during the day, very depressed/paranoid/negative thoughts. I am constantly reliving the experience from even going to the grocery store. I get extreme panic attacks, and it makes me not want to leave the house. My memory and focus has went to shit. I know there’s a lot missing, but I realized you are right, it’s definitely things I need to discuss more with my PCM.
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well that sounds like you can’t really do most rates with those symptoms. You just need to seek treatment and that needs to be your number one priority. I am currently in an Intensive Outpatient Therapy (IOP) because my psychologist said it works for most of her patients. I, personally think that the curriculum is more targeted towards people with personality disorders so I haven’t benefited from it in the 4 weeks I’ve been in. It’s a 12 week long program. The alternative is a 30 day inpatient program specifically for PTSD. Your psychiatrist can help get the ball rolling. If neither of those are appealing then just go to regular appointments frequently. You can even go to FFSC to start seeing a clinical counselor too. That will help fill in the gaps between medical appointments.

keep in mind that inpatient programs, while voluntary, may screw up things in your future. There’s always a potential to not be able to buy a gun, get a carry license, be a police officer after the navy, etc. There’s pros and cons to all forms of treatment. Do what’s best for you but be aware of the consequences.
 
I was told by my therapist that she wants me to consider a CnD discharge, fit for full, or a MEB. I have a few questions about each.
- With a CnD discharge, would I still be able to apply for VA benefits? The conditions are most definitely service related, however this option would get me out quick.
- Fit for full does not make sense for my situation as my conditions are all extremely interfering with my job.
- with MEB, I’ve looked at the DBQ, and I rate myself at either 70-100% for PTSD alone. However, my therapist says it’s highly unlikely for me to be found unfit for PTSD alone. Is that true? I have definitely read people getting found unfit and 70-100% for PTSD alone.
any questions or comments please lmk
 
To answer your question in regards to orders. It depends on what type command you are in.

1,3, and 6 they normally keep you onboard or TAD if they have the functions to help you with your diagnose especially mental health. Type 2 or 4 which is sea duty. If you are in type 2 or 4 the command has to let you go. Normally they will transfer you to TPU or the the closest MTF facility where your limdu orders start. Its in the black and white. Visit the npc limdu web page and click tld enlisted and it will show you how the process will work.

here are the types of duty in the navy if you are confused:
Different Types of Duty
  • Type 1: Contiguous United States (CONUS) shore duty.
  • Type 2 CONUS sea duty.
  • Type 3 Overseas shore (sea duty for rotational purposes)
  • Type 4 Overseas sea duty.
  • Type 5: Overseas shore duty
 
To answer your question in regards to orders. It depends on what type command you are in.

1,3, and 6 they normally keep you onboard or TAD if they have the functions to help you with your diagnose especially mental health. Type 2 or 4 which
 
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