199 and CRSC

Hello @CrustyGrunt

Per the Army’s HRC website:

”When submitting Physical Evaluation Board Proceedings (PEB), DA Form 199, etc. as supporting documentation, please recognize that Physical Disability Agency (PDA) determinations are in reference to laws other than CRSC. An example is combat related under 26 USC 104, which is similar to CRSC, but because they are different laws there may be variance between PDA determinations of combat related and that of CRSC's determination.”

Since I did not have a disability retirement, a DD 199 was not a part of my successful CRSC applications. In my opinion, one of the most important documents for support of a combat related determination is the VA award document (with accompanying narratives) received thru the U.S Mail. A high percentage of CRSC applications are submitted by retirees who received a regular or reserve retirement.

Good luck,
Ron
Note: I never served on a CRSC board.
 
No, it doesn't make sense but one does not have to experience direct combat to get CRSC
 
Blk42 said:
No, it doesn't make sense but one does not have to experience direct combat to get CRSC
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Many of the people who did experience direct combat don’t file applications until years after retirement. I filed my first application 15 years after I retired. Mine was not due to a wound, but due to exposure to toxic chemicals in Vietnam.

A friend filed the same year for gunshot wounds during the same war.

Ron
 
Is it recommended for an individual to do their own paperwork, or would a lawyer be the better option to do the write up?
 
To each his own. I did my own ~four.

Opinion: Most do their own. If one does. their own taxes they can complete a CRSC application.

Ron
 
The evidence is the key, not creative writing.

Ron
 
The evidence I have, just curious if it is something that warrants a set of legal eyes.
 
CrustyGrunt said:
The evidence I have, just curious if it is something that warrants a set of legal eyes.
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A guess: 98% or more of CRSC applications are submitted without the assistance of an attorney.

Frankly, I do not see why one would be needed for a CRSC application. The CRSC web pages of each service provide easy to understand instructions on what to submit.

Good luck,

Ron

Edited to add:

A new member, @RetiredColonel-MikeT , has offered to assist with CRSC matters.
His credentials:

CRSC Ambassador (US Army) (2016-present)
Former PEBLO (7 years)
Former AW2 Advocate (3 years)
Colonel (Retired), US Army, Patient Administration Officer (Medical Service Corps)
Time of service: 15 May 1982 - 29 July 2015

Again, his forum name is RetiredColonel-MikeT He might be able to assist you with the preparation of your application. VSOs should be able to help as well, but probably do not have as much experience.

cc: @Jason Perry @chaplaincharlie @Provis @Guardguy11
 
Blk42 said:
The name is kind of misleading.
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There are a lot of activities we do in the military that are "related" to combat, that we only do in order to prepare ourselves for such, or exposed to. Agent Orange, Radiation and Mustard Gas are things that you wouldn't (or hopefully shouldn't) be exposed to unless you were a) in the military or b) in an environment that is directly attributed to something that is combat-related, i.e., depleted uranium on tanks, Agent Orange for defoliation in Viet Nam, such as which @RonG was probably exposed to, and then you have Mustard Gas exposures during the Gulf War. Other codes that are utilized, such as for Armed Conflict, Purple Heart are obviously for being combat-related, then you have Hazardous Service (jump out of planes much?), Simulating War (tactical road marches) or Instrument of War (high noise environments such as rotary-wing aircraft, range fire, etc) are just as easy to give you a condition as something that is caused by Armed Conflict. Hence being "combat-related" instead of just "combat". I hope that makes some sense :)
 
CrustyGrunt said:
The evidence I have, just curious if it is something that warrants a set of legal eyes.
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Negative, there are some VSO's who know how to do DD-2860, and if not, I can certainly walk someone through completing the form. Page two is usually where people get stuck, but once you spend some time with me, you'll see just how easy it is. I get it, you'll only complete this application once, I've worked on several hundred over the past six years, so I can give you the in's and out's of how something can be used as a condition and what evidence would be necessary to support it.

For example - busted ankle/bad knees/etc from jumping out of aircraft - evidence? Jump logs. Do you have a CIB/CAB/CMB/PH/BS/SS or any award with a "V" device ("Valor") or other service branch equivalent, is considered evidence that something could have occurred due to combat-related operations. I know a lot of folks were in units where the command was more concerned about their own decorations than their troops, so you have to be creative in your evidence. A letter from the chain of command, medical documentation showing a mechanism of injury (MOI) - i.e. "patient broke their leg while performing a combat patrol north of FOB xxx". So some of this stuff may require some digging.
 
RetiredColonel-MikeT said:
Negative, there are some VSO's who know how to do DD-2860, and if not, I can certainly walk someone through completing the form. Page two is usually where people get stuck, but once you spend some time with me, you'll see just how easy it is. I get it, you'll only complete this application once, I've worked on several hundred over the past six years, so I can give you the in's and out's of how something can be used as a condition and what evidence would be necessary to support it.

For example - busted ankle/bad knees/etc from jumping out of aircraft - evidence? Jump logs. Do you have a CIB/CAB/CMB/PH/BS/SS or any award with a "V" device ("Valor") or other service branch equivalent, is considered evidence that something could have occurred due to combat-related operations. I know a lot of folks were in units where the command was more concerned about their own decorations than their troops, so you have to be creative in your evidence. A letter from the chain of command, medical documentation showing a mechanism of injury (MOI) - i.e. "patient broke their leg while performing a combat patrol north of FOB xxx". So some of this stuff may require some digging.
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I appreciate the response sir, great explanations for clarity, much appreciated!
 
Hey guys, question regarding evidence. I do have a Purple Heart/CAB and commentary in my records saying that it is reported my back and hip problems come from an IED incident. I assume that’s probably enough for those but can I also claim tinnitus as connected, which for sure it is, when there’s no real medical record commentary connecting it? Is it feasible to attempt to claim knee and foot problems are connected to “simulated combat” trainings from time on the 82nd GRF when I don’t have any single specific incident in which these things were reported hurt in medical documentation. I do have all these things as approved VA claims but don’t feel I have any great medical records to link directly to specific “combat simulation” exercises.

Is it unrealistic or ridiculous to claim to the latter. I guess I’m just looking to see if anyone knows how strict the crsc evidence guidelines are for whoever reviews these things.

Thanks for any and all help!
 
Sorry for probably also rehashing old information that’s been said a million times on here just curious if I need very specific this caused that evidence or if it could almost be presumptive that yes being in a loud massive blast will cause hearing damage, etc
 
Hello,

Everything I know about CRSC (with the exception of computations) is at the link below:
Collection of CRSC information LINK <—-

Good luck,
Ron
 
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