Army CRSC 2022

Hello all, I’m just wondering if anyone has seen an approval letter populate recently in iperms. HRC portal now has a link to iperms which I have been checking every few days. I sent in my CRSC packet March 22. I still haven’t heard anything yet. Nothing in my pay, nothing iperms or HRC portal and nothing in the mail. Is no news good news? Thanks all!
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Sapper6 I received my CRSC from the Army in the last 15 days, and what I'd seen on the forum was exactly right. It took +- 75 days (The letter from HRC saying they received my CRSC application said up to 90) and I saw the letter populate on my iPERMS acount a week or so before I received it in the mail. I was impatient and checked my account every day (once at least) the whole time, but in the end no news was good news. Now I'm waiting for a notification from DFAS that it's been processed.
 
Just the diagnosis and GW incurred on the code sheet
Gulf War, Incurred does not directly equal combat related. There is a short list of disabilities from the VA that create a presumptive condition for the service components to assume they are incurred by instrumentality of war rather than proof of direct combat (or simulated combat) causes. This list includes certain types of cancers, breathing conditions, and in some situations GI conditions. Anything other than those specifically listed disabilities must be individually proved by the applicant for combat related approval.

Hypothetical example: If you are under direct fire maneuvering in Afghanistan and fall in a hole, breaking your leg, you are likely to be approved for CRSC. If you are running for PT in Afghanistan, without hostile action, and you fall in a hole and break your leg, you are likely to be denied for CRSC. Your physical disposition on the planet is not the cause of your disability, your actions taken under direct fire were.

Personal Examples: I was recently approved for instrumentality of war (Afghanistan) under presumptive condition for Asthma (referred condition of my MEB), and approved for tinnitus, but denied for IBS (not sure why but they said it's not presumptive for my deployments) and denied for several other injuries including shoulder injury and foot injuries that were incurred during Ranger School. Ranger didn't make medical records of exact cause of injury so I can't prove it, regardless of the fact that it was incurred during simulated war. There was no presumption of cause of injury even though my injury documentation stated treatment from 5th RTB. HRC shrugged and said provide better records to prove it happen during said simulated war.
 
First post on the forum.
Sapper6 I received my CRSC from the Army in the last 15 days, and what I'd seen on the forum was exactly right. It took +- 75 days (The letter from HRC saying they received my CRSC application said up to 90) and I saw the letter populate on my iPERMS acount a week or so before I received it in the mail. I was impatient and checked my account every day (once at least) the whole time, but in the end no news was good news. Now I'm waiting for a notification from DFAS that it's been processed.
So it did populate in iperms? Also what was your timeline? When did they receive your packet and when did you get the letter in iperms? Just curious.
 
So it did populate in iperms? Also what was your timeline? When did they receive your packet and when did you get the letter in iperms? Just curious.
No problem - I'll clarify all.

26 Dec 21 - AD Retired
15 Feb 22 - HRC Received my application for CRSC. Said 90 working days until I receive information.
28 April 22 - CRSC Approval Letter posted in my iPERMS.
o/a 06 May 22 - Received CRSC Approval Letter in the mail.
11 May 22 - Called DFAS and they confirmed they received my CRSC approval letter from the Army, they gave an estimate of what I'll receive but I'm pretty confident it was wrong.

Still checking DFAS daily to hope there's an updated RAS or a CRSC Pay Statement so I know for sure what I'll get. Done the calculation using Ron's method and I have an idea of what it should be. If that posts any time soon I'll let you know so you have that timeline too.
 
Gulf War, Incurred does not directly equal combat related. There is a short list of disabilities from the VA that create a presumptive condition for the service components to assume they are incurred by instrumentality of war rather than proof of direct combat (or simulated combat) causes. This list includes certain types of cancers, breathing conditions, and in some situations GI conditions. Anything other than those specifically listed disabilities must be individually proved by the applicant for combat related approval.

Hypothetical example: If you are under direct fire maneuvering in Afghanistan and fall in a hole, breaking your leg, you are likely to be approved for CRSC. If you are running for PT in Afghanistan, without hostile action, and you fall in a hole and break your leg, you are likely to be denied for CRSC. Your physical disposition on the planet is not the cause of your disability, your actions taken under direct fire were.

Personal Examples: I was recently approved for instrumentality of war (Afghanistan) under presumptive condition for Asthma (referred condition of my MEB), and approved for tinnitus, but denied for IBS (not sure why but they said it's not presumptive for my deployments) and denied for several other injuries including shoulder injury and foot injuries that were incurred during Ranger School. Ranger didn't make medical records of exact cause of injury so I can't prove it, regardless of the fact that it was incurred during simulated war. There was no presumption of cause of injury even though my injury documentation stated treatment from 5th RTB. HRC shrugged and said provide better records to prove it happen during said simulated war.
Agreed! My wife will be applying soon for CRSC for Chronic Sinusitis. She was diagnosed a year after deployment and the service connection and combat related are presumed due to particulate matter & burn pit exposure.
 
Agreed! My wife will be applying soon for CRSC for Chronic Sinusitis. She was diagnosed a year after deployment and the service connection and combat related are presumed due to particulate matter & burn pit exposure.
My breathing issues onset 8 months to a year after my deployment too (likely burn pit / particulate). When I applied for CRSC for Asthma they approved it, and also approved it for Allergic Rhinitis due to the presumptive conditions. AR was 0% so it doesn't really matter, but it was nice to see them add a condition I hadn't even applied for.

I hope the application is quick and easy for your wife, and that the sinusitis is manageable. Particulate matter / burn pit exposure can get rough.
 
Does anyone have a sample write-up of what specific information should be put on the form when submitting for CRSC? Also, does your findings necessarily have to state combat related?
 
Just got mine back at 75 days. Just like others in this post, I believe I will have to evaluate on several issues, that I know meet the criteria, but were for some reason denied. Time to research the appeals/re-apply process!
 
Does anyone have a sample write-up of what specific information should be put on the form when submitting for CRSC? Also, does your findings necessarily have to state combat related?
Here is an example of ONE successful CRSC application. I suspect each application will include other items.

Ron
added: I am an expert on only one application; that being the last application I submitted in 2015. I am not a disability retiree.
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Example of a Successful CRSC Application

12 August 2021

POSTED BY "LOOKINGUP"
This is a post from a little over a year ago I out together., Maybe this will help you. Keep it short, if possible and simple. I look at it like this, help them help you. Good clean straight forward packet.
These are the items I sent in my packet

DD214
SFC PROMOTION ORDERS
DA FORM 638 COMBAT ACTION
DA FORM 638 EOT AWARD
CIB ORDERS
MEDICAL REPORT IN THREATER 2010
MEDICAL REPORT POST SUGERY 2018
DA FORM 199
VA AWARDS LETTER
VA AWARDS PACKET

I highlight all important information such as:

o bullets in my awards related to enemy engagements
o CIB orders number
o medical report information
o DA form 199 V codes and summary
o promotion orders number

I also stapled or paper clipped like items together.

I created a cover sheet including all the evidance and items in my packets to include both DD FORM 2860

I mailed the packet to the address provided on the Army hrc website for CRSC.
ALSO I REQUESTED A RETURN GREEN SLIP THAT THEY HAD TO SIGN UPON RECIEVING MY PACKET.

I hope this will help others complete a good clean packet that makes it easy for the rating offical to make a decision. Help them help you.

Timeline as follows
2019 MAY 28---- midically retired
2019 AUG 30----mailed CRSC packet
2019 SEP 5-------USPS return green slip received
2019 SEP 11---- called army hrc and they are processing packet and said could take up to 7 months.
2019 SEP 19----recieved letter in the mail from hrc stated they recieved packet and it could take up to 7 months.
2019 0CT 1----logged onto my Army HRC portal to check if any new items have been uploaded and see my approval later has been completed and approved for 70%

2019 OCT 1 approved
 
Hello all, I’m just wondering if anyone has seen an approval letter populate recently in iperms. HRC portal now has a link to iperms which I have been checking every few days. I sent in my CRSC packet March 22. I still haven’t heard anything yet. Nothing in my pay, nothing iperms or HRC portal and nothing in the mail. Is no news good news? Thanks all!
60-90 days is the average processing time and that's before it goes to DFAS, so have patience, gwasshoppah ;) As for iPerms? Can't say I have as I am not eligible for CRSC, but keep us posted if you see something there, tbh, this was the first I was aware you could get into iPERMS after getting out, and I just downloaded my records :)
 
Does anyone have a sample write-up of what specific information should be put on the form when submitting for CRSC? Also, does your findings necessarily have to state combat related?
No, however, there needs to be a causal relationship between the condition and conditions deemed to be "combat-related" - i.e. Tinnitus will not be an unfitting condition under IDES, hearing loss, yes, but not Tinnitus, on the VA-side, unless it's directly due to a blast, chances are it also won't be considered "combat-related" - each service branch looks at the condition and considers it under the reasons that you state (tactical road march, fell into a hole and busted ankle, worked in a high noise environment (helicopters) as a crew chief, etc), making sure there is a reasonable relationship between the condition and your records. If you have a combat-related award (Army: CAB/CIB/CMB/PH/BS/SS/ARCOM w/V device, etc), it goes a long way to show that causal relationship.
 
No problem - I'll clarify all.

26 Dec 21 - AD Retired
15 Feb 22 - HRC Received my application for CRSC. Said 90 working days until I receive information.
28 April 22 - CRSC Approval Letter posted in my iPERMS.
o/a 06 May 22 - Received CRSC Approval Letter in the mail.
11 May 22 - Called DFAS and they confirmed they received my CRSC approval letter from the Army, they gave an estimate of what I'll receive but I'm pretty confident it was wrong.

Still checking DFAS daily to hope there's an updated RAS or a CRSC Pay Statement so I know for sure what I'll get. Done the calculation using Ron's method and I have an idea of what it should be. If that posts any time soon I'll let you know so you have that timeline too.
Awesome! Thank you for sharing and congrats!
 
Awesome! Thank you for sharing and congrats!
Updated DFAS RAS: Some receive only one DFAS RAS a year if all their retired pay is reduced to zero. I usually receive an updated RAS for 1-31 December when COLA increases are applied.

Changes to retired pay and/or VA comp commonly result in a new RAS.

RON
 
60-90 days is the average processing time and that's before it goes to DFAS, so have patience, gwasshoppah ;) As for iPerms? Can't say I have as I am not eligible for CRSC, but keep us posted if you see something there, tbh, this was the first I was aware you could get into iPERMS after getting out, and I just downloaded my records :)
Same. I was excited to be able to access all of my records. Thanks for your help!
 
Morning gentlemen, I have a question. I’m currently waiting on a response to my written appeal to the PEB to have my 2 unfitting conditions correctly adjudicated as combat related. Although it has been 3 weeks and I haven’t heard anything… I had the evidence necessary and Im fairly confident it will get resolved.

My question is this:
I have multiple other injuries and conditions that will unequivocally be combat related by the VA upon final approval. Now I don’t expect this situation ….but just as a hypothetical and for my peace of mind…if I failed to get my “Unfitting” conditions annotated with V1/V3, will that effect my CRSC approval? Or as long as I have VA rated conditions that are combat related will I be fine. I will be retiring and meet all other qualifications according to HRC guidelines. Thanks!
 
Morning gentlemen, I have a question. I’m currently waiting on a response to my written appeal to the PEB to have my 2 unfitting conditions correctly adjudicated as combat related. Although it has been 3 weeks and I haven’t heard anything… I had the evidence necessary and Im fairly confident it will get resolved.

My question is this:
I have multiple other injuries and conditions that will unequivocally be combat related by the VA upon final approval. Now I don’t expect this situation ….but just as a hypothetical and for my peace of mind…if I failed to get my “Unfitting” conditions annotated with V1/V3, will that effect my CRSC approval? Or as long as I have VA rated conditions that are combat related will I be fine. I will be retiring and meet all other qualifications according to HRC guidelines. Thanks!
PEB and CRSC are independent of each other. One finding with the PEB doesn't mean you can't get a different finding with CRSC. Now if the PEB says combat related then make sure to submit that as evidence to bolster your case but its not a sure thing one way or the other.
 
PEB and CRSC are independent of each other. One finding with the PEB doesn't mean you can't get a different finding with CRSC. Now if the PEB says combat related then make sure to submit that as evidence to bolster your case but its not a sure thing one way or the other.
Ok right on thank you….and thanks to the forum. This forum and its moderators have been a wealth of invaluable knowledge and has relieved me of a ton of stress over the last 6 months.
 
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