How long does it take for CRDP to kick in after retirement?

[broken_but_not_fragile]

Good Day, Team:

Have a question regarding CRDP, I recently medically retired (NOV24) with over 20 years of service. On 01JAN, I just received my first retirement check. In going through the statement, I noticed that a subtraction filed under VA Waiver. I was under the impression that the VA waiver is waved is the SM is receiving more 50% VA disability. I called DFAS (early DEC) and was told that my CRPD automatically kicks in and there is no reason to file anything but has to be audited first before kicking in. Does anyone has any experience with this and how long did it take to get your fully retirement? I called DFAS again today and the women stated that the VA waiver does not go away because of the amount I receive from the VA? I have no idea what that means and explained that her explanation didn’t make sense. I got disconnected. Just wanted to see if anyone else had this issue or to see if I am wrong.
Thanks

 

[Provis]

Good Day, Team:

Have a question regarding CRDP, I recently medically retired (NOV24) with over 20 years of service. On 01JAN, I just received my first retirement check. In going through the statement, I noticed that a subtraction filed under VA Waiver. I was under the impression that the VA waiver is waved is the SM is receiving more 50% VA disability. I called DFAS (early DEC) and was told that my CRPD automatically kicks in and there is no reason to file anything but has to be audited first before kicking in. Does anyone has any experience with this and how long did it take to get your fully retirement? I called DFAS again today and the women stated that the VA waiver does not go away because of the amount I receive from the VA? I have no idea what that means and explained that her explanation didn’t make sense. I got disconnected. Just wanted to see if anyone else had this issue or to see if I am wrong.
Thanks

Were you medically retired at a DOD% higher than your longevity such as 70% DOD and had a 20 year retirement at 50%? In those cased you can't get more than all of your longevity + VA pay. So if being paid 70% then that amount + VA is higher than you can get by law. So they have it adjust it down.

 

[broken_but_not_fragile]

You are on it, my good Sir. Yes, I am at 70% following my medical retirement, instead of 50%. Tracking then. I will chalk this up to another little bullet point they forgot to mention during my transition. Again this highlights the knowledge that places like this can provide; because the DFAS agent was unable to break down the reasoning. Thanks again.

 

[Rekmor]

You are on it, my good Sir. Yes, I am at 70% following my medical retirement, instead of 50%. Tracking then. I will chalk this up to another little bullet point they forgot to mention during my transition. Again this highlights the knowledge that places like this can provide; because the DFAS agent was unable to break down the reasoning. Thanks again.

Just so I'm reading this right, 20 year retirement = 50% Base Pay, but if medically retired at 100%, you get 75% of your base pay as a medical retirement. As a result, they say "whooaaa nelly, that's too much!" and adjust your DoD retirement (longevity) to 50% as it should be, then you get the VA amount as prescribed, but only after they audit it and change it back over? What a convoluted process.

 

[broken_but_not_fragile]

Based on my current understanding is that I am not going to get my VA waiver portion back and will “lose” that 2000 a month because I can’t get more than my actual TIS amount (50%). So besides my VA rating, I don’t think the Army’s medical retirement number meant a whole lot because I guess I default to my original percentage. If I understand correctly.

 

[Rekmor]

Based on my current understanding is that I am not going to get my VA waiver portion back and will “lose” that 2000 a month because I can’t get more than my actual TIS amount (50%). So besides my VA rating, I don’t think the Army’s medical retirement number meant a whole lot because I guess I default to my original percentage. If I understand correctly.

Wait, it'll be back paid once they get it hammered out, right?

 

[broken_but_not_fragile]

Were you medically retired at a DOD% higher than your longevity such as 70% DOD and had a 20 year retirement at 50%? In those cased you can't get more than all of your longevity + VA pay. So if being paid 70% then that amount + VA is higher than you can get by law. So they have it adjust it dow

Your example is true. Does that mean I will only get my 50% retirement and my VA percentage pay, not the 70% percentage and va?

 

[Rekmor]

Your example is true. Does that mean I will only get my 50% retirement and my VA percentage pay, not the 70% percentage and va?

Yeah, that's precisely what I understood, but what concerns me is what you're saying as the convoluted process of giving then taking back. After thinking about it, it honestly doesn't surprise me much, haha.

 

[JoelPettit]

@broken_but_not_fragile
You are correct. Think of it this way, as @Provis stated, no one can receive more than his or her longevity retirement amount + VA disability pay (you can check the truth of this in the FMR). Therefore, because the 70% is the disability retirement, DFAS will adjust down the 70% to your longevity percentage.

Logically, from a staffing/business operations perspective, think of it this way: if DFAS didn't adjust the 70% down, then every Service member reaching 20 years of service would have a huge monetary incentive to be medically retired as soon as they are eligible for CRDP, as they could achieve at 20 years of service what they would otherwise have to wait until 24, 28 or 30 years of service to achieve, monetarily speaking.

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