HRC Army Current Timeline and CRSC estimate

[DDM_Sgt]

Long time lurker, First time posting.

Was medically retired in July of 2011 with 6.5 years of service due to injuries incurred during two Iraq tours. I was looking to see what HRC Army's current timeline is looking like as far as getting these packets processed through the holiday season and how much of a damper that puts on the timelines of approval or denial? Not only the aforementioned, but I would like to see if I could get an estimate of monthly entitlement based off the following information. Any input is appreciated.

Thank you.

My CRSC timeline as of now(will edit as time progresses)

Packet mailed by USPS: 23 NOV 2022
Recieved by HRC: 28 NOV 2022
Confirmation of receipt letter: 30 NOV 2022
Approved or Denied: TBD
Approval of CRSC: TBD
First Payment of CRSC: TBD
Retroactive Pay recieved: TBD

Now for the meat and potatoes:

1. Gross Pay: $1,205
1a. Yes, I did recieve a DoD disability retirement
2. DoD percentage: 70%
3. 6 years, 4 months
4a. VA compensation: 100%
4b. Amount: $3,971.78
4c. Spouse and 1 child under 18
5. Projected CRSC percentage: 70%, 100%(I'd like to calculate both please)
6. Not eligible for any other retirement
7. No REDUX
8. No blended retirement

Again thank you for any inputs. Attached is my RAS as updated as possible.

-JP

 

[Provis]

Long time lurker, First time posting.

Was medically retired in July of 2011 with 6.5 years of service due to injuries incurred during two Iraq tours. I was looking to see what HRC Army's current timeline is looking like as far as getting these packets processed through the holiday season and how much of a damper that puts on the timelines of approval or denial? Not only the aforementioned, but I would like to see if I could get an estimate of monthly entitlement based off the following information. Any input is appreciated.

Thank you.

My CRSC timeline as of now(will edit as time progresses)

Packet mailed by USPS: 23 NOV 2022
Recieved by HRC: 28 NOV 2022
Confirmation of receipt letter: 30 NOV 2022
Approved or Denied: TBD
Approval of CRSC: TBD
First Payment of CRSC: TBD
Retroactive Pay recieved: TBD

Now for the meat and potatoes:

1. Gross Pay: $1,205
1a. Yes, I did recieve a DoD disability retirement
2. DoD percentage: 70%
3. 6 years, 4 months
4a. VA compensation: 100%
4b. Amount: $3,971.78
4c. Spouse and 1 child under 18
5. Projected CRSC percentage: 70%, 100%(I'd like to calculate both please)
6. Not eligible for any other retirement
7. No REDUX
8. No blended retirement

Again thank you for any inputs. Attached is my RAS as updated as possible.

-JP

Both at 70% and 100% the CRSC amount would be the same. You are limited by the longevity of your regular pension earned. So the most you can get for CRSC is $1,205.00 and both 70% and 100% VA are higher than that amount.

 

[DDM_Sgt]

Both at 70% and 100% the CRSC amount would be the same. You are limited by the longevity of your regular pension earned. So the most you can get for CRSC is $1,205.00 and both 70% and 100% VA are higher than that amount.

Thank you for the reply. I have limited knowledge on how this all is calculated even after reviewing multiple threads on the subject. Again, I appreciate the response. I believe I saw something pertaining to retropay being limited to 72 months, is this the case or did I misinterpret that?

 

[Provis]

Thank you for the reply. I have limited knowledge on how this all is calculated even after reviewing multiple threads on the subject. Again, I appreciate the response. I believe I saw something pertaining to retropay being limited to 72 months, is this the case or did I misinterpret that?

Yes you will get backpay for CRSC for up to 6 years. That is correct

 

[Provis]

Thank you for the reply. I have limited knowledge on how this all is calculated even after reviewing multiple threads on the subject. Again, I appreciate the response. I believe I saw something pertaining to retropay being limited to 72 months, is this the case or did I misinterpret that?

Ron G. made a great comment offline. I was mistaken on the amount since your current Gross Pay is at 70% DOD. I had a brain fart. It would be your high 3 which is $1,721.43 x longevity which is 17.5% if that half year rounds up to 7 years. So $301.25 is the max amount for CRSC since that is your earned regular pension. Sorry for giving you incorrect information at the beginning!

 

[DDM_Sgt]

Ron G. made a great comment offline. I was mistaken on the amount since your current Gross Pay is at 70% DOD. I had a brain fart. It would be your high which is $1,721.43 x longevity which is 17.5% if that half year rounds up to 7 years. So $301.25 is the max amount for CRSC since that is your earned regular pension. Sorry for giving you incorrect information at the beginning!

It's all good. Appreciate the update.

 

[Dre1842]

Army HRC is so slow compared to the other branches

 

[DDM_Sgt]

Army HRC is so slow compared to the other branches

I mean the Army is the largest branch so I wouldn't be too crazy(or maybe I am) thinking the number of applicants would be larger and it would take a bit longer to process.

 

[Dre1842]

Could be but the info is right in front of them, it's not difficult to sign off/deny it IMO. I still waiting from 10 Nov.
Regarding the pay I thought gross pay was the DoD portion you received before VA pay, In this case 70% of 100%. Wouldn't it be 100%? Would the gross from Mypay serve as your high three? I was under the impression it wasn't....

 

[DDM_Sgt]

Regarding the pay I thought gross pay was the DoD portion you received before VA pay, In this case 70% of 100%. Wouldn't it be 100%? Would the gross from Mypay serve as your high three? I was under the impression it wasn't....

Honestly, I don't know.

 

[RonG]

Hello @Dre1842 and @DDM_Sgt

The average high three is the total of one’s highest 36 months of pay divided by 36.

If one’s retired pay is computed using the DOD percentage, they can take the gross pay in the DFAS RAS and divide it by the DoD percentage = average high three after any COLAs have been applied.

Ron

Edited to add: The gross is the amount of retired pay before the VA offset and other deductions.

 

[RonG]

Army HRC is so slow compared to the other branches

Army = Used to take 6 months and up for approval of CRSC.

That was my experience and I have received CRSC almost since it was implemented.

Ron

 

[JMATTK]

It’s currently running two months. That was my experience in the fall for the Army. Same for other recent member experiences.

 

[RonG]

It’s currently running two months. That was my experience in the fall for the Army. Same for other recent member experiences.

Vast improvement from 6-12 years ago when I submitted applications.


Ron

 

[JMATTK]

As always, past performance is not indicative of future results lol.

 

[RonG]

As always, past performance is not indicative of future results lol.

I agree; I was just pointing out it used to be much worse.

Ron

 

[Dre1842]

Can I have an estimate of mine?

1. Gross Pay: Assuming its $783 of $2610
1a. Yes, I did recieve a DoD disability retirement
2. DoD percentage: 30%
3. 5 years, 12 days
4a. VA compensation: 100%
4b. Amount: $3,885.62
4c. No Spouse and 1 child under 18
5. Projected CRSC percentage: At least 50%
6. Not eligible for any other retirement
7. No REDUX
8. No blended retirement

 

[RonG]

Can I have an estimate of mine?

1. Gross Pay: Assuming its $783 of $2610
1a. Yes, I did recieve a DoD disability retirement
2. DoD percentage: 30%
3. 5 years, 12 days
4a. VA compensation: 100%
4b. Amount: $3,885.62
4c. No Spouse and 1 child under 18
5. Projected CRSC percentage: At least 50%
6. Not eligible for any other retirement
7. No REDUX
8. No blended retirement

Hello,

a. 783/30% = 2610 is high three
b. 5 years active duty equivalent x 2.5% = 12.5% longevity multiplier
c. 2610 x 12.5% = 326.25 longevity portions of retired pay unless the CRSC approval percentage equates to an amount LESS than 326.25
d. CRSC approval at 50% and above still results in 326.25 CRSC

e. Special Rules for Chapter 61 Disability Retirees: According to law, members retired for disability under Chapter 61 of title 10 United States Code must have the CRSC entitlement limited to an amount that when combined with any military retired pay remaining after offset for VA disability compensation will not exceed the retired pay they would otherwise be entitled to for retirement computed for years of service (i.e., 2 1/2 percent x years of service x pay base).

Ron

 

[Dre1842]

Hello,

a. 783/30% = 2610 is high three
b. 5 years active duty equivalent x 2.5% = 12.5% longevity multiplier
c. 2610 x 12.5% = 326.25 longevity portions of retired pay unless the CRSC approval percentage equates to an amount LESS than 326.25
d. CRSC approval at 50% and above still results in 326.25 CRSC

e. Special Rules for Chapter 61 Disability Retirees: According to law, members retired for disability under Chapter 61 of title 10 United States Code must have the CRSC entitlement limited to an amount that when combined with any military retired pay remaining after offset for VA disability compensation will not exceed the retired pay they would otherwise be entitled to for retirement computed for years of service (i.e., 2 1/2 percent x years of service x pay base).

Ron

Thank you, pending approval now.

 

[RonG]

Glad we could help.

Ron