My Current Timeline, IDES or LDES?

[CrimsonGalaxy]

I know the majority here always say IDES. However I want to give some of my situation and see what you guys think.

Conditions: Persistent depressive disorder, General anxiety disorder, chronic back pain (spinal compression, bulged discs, with left leg sciatica) sustained at work with mishap report filed

My current timeline is

Late March: IRILO/Code 37 Approved
April 25: Code 37 Flipped (they forgot?) and MH NARSUM complete
April 29: Physical NARSUM and CIS(do not retain) complete.
May 2: Submitted to AFPC.

So my situation, I am active duty living 1 1/2 hours from base (moved there for a medical issue with my spouse) so I commute 3 hours a day which is horrible on my back, the pain is making my mental health spiral. My natural contract ends Oct 2 2022, so I would most likely have to extend if I choose IDES. I also start college full time in August so I will be getting G.I Bill and FAFSA.

I really just want to be done ASAP..I am thinking LDES because I have a VA hospital and facilities 20 mins from my house, money will be tight but I can manage with G.I Bill/FAFSA and my wife's income for now.

The only worry I have is the rating.. but I am more than sure DOD will put me at or over 30%. I haven't been deployable since Afghanistan in 2020, I also haven't had a full PT test in 2+ years and was moved off flight line work to an admin role due to my back injury.

 

[Provis]

I know the majority here always say IDES. However I want to give some of my situation and see what you guys think.

Conditions: Persistent depressive disorder, General anxiety disorder, chronic back pain (spinal compression, bulged discs, with left leg sciatica) sustained at work with mishap report filed

My current timeline is

Late March: IRILO/Code 37 Approved
April 25: Code 37 Flipped (they forgot?) and MH NARSUM complete
April 29: Physical NARSUM and CIS(do not retain) complete.
May 2: Submitted to AFPC.

So my situation, I am active duty living 1 1/2 hours from base (moved there for a medical issue with my spouse) so I commute 3 hours a day which is horrible on my back, the pain is making my mental health spiral. My natural contract ends Oct 2 2022, so I would most likely have to extend if I choose IDES. I also start college full time in August so I will be getting G.I Bill and FAFSA.

I really just want to be done ASAP..I am thinking LDES because I have a VA hospital and facilities 20 mins from my house, money will be tight but I can manage with G.I Bill/FAFSA and my wife's income for now.

The only worry I have is the rating.. but I am more than sure DOD will put me at or over 30%. I haven't been deployable since Afghanistan in 2020, I also haven't had a full PT test in 2+ years and was moved off flight line work to an admin role due to my back injury.

I would go IDES. Its only the C&P exams and by doing that you have more control and protections. If you aren't a Reserve or NG person you don't have any VA ratings for LDES to go off of and that increases your chances of being screwed. For LDES they can give you whatever rating they want and with no VA percentages to compare you could get royally screwed. If you choose LDES and it doesn't go your way you could have a very bad outcome since there isn't the protections in LDES that are in IDES. The beauty of IDES is that your branch MUST use the VA ratings for unfitting conditions. So if VA rates it 70% they HAVE to rate it 70%. I was in LDES a long time ago when IDES wasn't yet created (2005). The PEB came up with the OPPOSITE conclusion of my MEB. They gave me a zero rating. The VA gave me a higher rating starting the day I got out for the same condition.

This process sucks but don't go LDES just due to saving 1 month of time. Its not worth it in most cases.

 

[CrimsonGalaxy]

I would go IDES. Its only the C&P exams and by doing that you have more control and protections. If you aren't a Reserve or NG person you don't have any VA ratings for LDES to go off of and that increases your chances of being screwed. For LDES they can give you whatever rating they want and with no VA percentages to compare you could get royally screwed. If you choose LDES and it doesn't go your way you could have a very bad outcome since there isn't the protections in LDES that are in IDES. The beauty of IDES is that your branch MUST use the VA ratings for unfitting conditions. So if VA rates it 70% they HAVE to rate it 70%. I was in LDES a long time ago when IDES wasn't yet created (2005). The PEB came up with the OPPOSITE conclusion of my MEB. They gave me a zero rating. The VA gave me a higher rating starting the day I got out for the same condition.

This process sucks but don't go LDES just due to saving 1 month of time. Its not worth it in most cases.

Yeah that’s my only concern.. the drive is just killing me. Maybe the Air Force will be fast for once after AFPC returns their answer. Wishful thinking right!

Thanks for the response

 

[smurff]

Yeah that’s my only concern.. the drive is just killing me. Maybe the Air Force will be fast for once after AFPC returns their answer. Wishful thinking right!

Thanks for the response

I am almost on the same timeline as you are in regards to MEB process. Try working with you chain to see if you can possibly work remote or come in a few days a week opposed to all 5. They should be pretty supportive of you as you will be transitioning out soon anyways and cannot always rely on you for work.

 

[CrimsonGalaxy]

I am almost on the same timeline as you are in regards to MEB process. Try working with you chain to see if you can possibly work remote or come in a few days a week opposed to all 5. They should be pretty supportive of you as you will be transitioning out soon anyways and cannot always rely on you for work.

I took your advice and talked with my shirt/shop chief today, the commander said its fine as long as my shop approves it. I think they are actually going to let me run a trial next month to see how it works out. 3 days there 2 days home or something similar to that.

 

[smurff]

I took your advice and talked with my shirt/shop chief today, the commander said its fine as long as my shop approves it. I think they are actually going to let me run a trial next month to see how it works out. 3 days there 2 days home or something similar to that.

do you have any updates on your MEB?

 

[CrimsonGalaxy]

do you have any updates on your MEB?

Sure! Here is my current timeline as if this week

April 25: Code 37 flipped (they forgot to flip it)

April 25: MH NARSUM complete

April 29: Physical health NARSUM complete

April 29: CIS(do not retain)

May 2: Package sent to AFPC

June 7: AFPC Determination (Full MEB)

June 8: PEBLO Brief/ VA MSC contacted me

June 9: Claims made with VA MSC/eBenefits updated claim to evidence gathering

June 29: First C&P Exam

July 16: Second C&P Exam

Waiting on VES for final C&P appointment

 

[smurff]

Sure! Here is my current timeline as if this week

April 25: Code 37 flipped (they forgot to flip it)

April 25: MH NARSUM complete

April 29: Physical health NARSUM complete

April 29: CIS(do not retain)

May 2: Package sent to AFPC

June 7: AFPC Determination (Full MEB)

June 8: PEBLO Brief/ VA MSC contacted me

June 9: Claims made with VA MSC/eBenefits updated claim to evidence gathering

June 29: First C&P Exam

July 16: Second C&P Exam

Waiting on VES for final C&P appointmet

You're almost at the end! Hopefully they will get your ratings quickly!

 

[CrimsonGalaxy]

Update: Case is moving quickly now.

July 28: Final C&P Complete.
August 7: QTC exams uploaded to Tricare and marked complete
August 8: PEBLO contact/Signed 618 (unfit)
August 8: PEBLO sent package to PEB

 

[AR PBO]

Disclaimer: I only have one identified "unfit" condition that is very definitive, has been a problem since Iraq 2005, and is very well documented.

Nov 2021 Permanent profile request to upgrade "L" from P2 to P3

Jan 2022 P3 granted

May 24: First contact with PEBLO

MAY 25: Mandatory VA briefing

May 31: Mandatory VA VOC Rehab briefing

June 8: VA/QTC C&P exam

June 23: MEB done, MEB NARSUM favorable for me. First contact with Ft Gordon attorney. We concurred and moved to PEB, Estimated time for PEB, 2 months. PEBLO a

August 19th: All VA claims closed and awaiting decision letter ( I am already 90%) important to note that the QTC Doc I saw whipped up a laundry list of small things secondary to existing VA issues. Otherwise, I think my VA claim would have been done at the end of July.