ABCMR lied to me for 12 months saying my case is under review when it was never assigned to an analyst

combatvet310

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My attorney at NVLSP found out that my case has not been assigned to an analyst. In other words my case has been on the shelf for 12 months. Mind you my application was mailed to ARBA in December 2020 and took 5 months to be docketed on top of a 24 month wait period to get a decision that my case was transferred to ABCMR. 29 month process.

Not only that ARBA sent me a letter stating my case will be expedited and transferred to ABCMR and complete within 6-8 months. It’s past that deadline at 12 months. And as I said my case has not been reviewed at all by ABCMR although they say it’s under review when I ask for an update.

Timeline: 41 months and counting and yet to get a decision.
 
Unfortunately, your experience is not unique or an aberration. Despite the fanciful representations made on the ABCMR website suggesting that a decision will be made within 12 to 18 months, experience shows as you have discovered that it may take two to three years or longer for the ABCMR to issue a decision from the time it enters an application into its case management system. That does not include the 60 to 90 day period that the application sits in the mail room after receipt awaiting processing.

Unfortunately, there is no remedy for an applicant faced with inordinate ABCMR lassitude and unreasonable delay. The ABCMR knows this and has little or no incentive or motivation to work harder, faster or more efficiently. The requirement in 10 U.S.C. § 1557(b) that a correction board take final action within 18 months of receipt of an application is meaningless and offers an applicant no remedy. 10 U.S.C. § 1557(d) (“Failure of a Corrections Board to meet the applicable timeliness standard for any period of time under subsection (a) or (b) does not confer any presumption or advantage with respect to consideration by the board of any application.”); see Lewis v. United States, 476 F. App'x 240, 245 (Fed. Cir. 2012) (“[T]he failure to meet the timeliness standard [in § 1557] cannot be the basis for finding error in the BCNR's decision.”); Buholtz v. United States, 2023 WL 2054073, at *6 (Fed. Cl. Feb. 16, 2023). The Secretary of the Army or her delegee, just like the other secretaries of the military departments, routinely waives the timeliness standard for correction board action based on the purported determination that it “warrants a longer period of consideration.” 10 U.S.C. § 1557(c).

Congressional inquiries are worthless. Unless the applicant is or is backed by a major political donor or has some other unusual political juice, members of Congress have no interest in the administrative problems of Soldiers or veterans and any inquiry will be handled by low level staff members, usually at some remote office location. The congressional staff will send an inquiry to Army Congressional liaison where some lieutenant colonel action officer will forward it to the ABCMR. The ABCMR will respond with anodyne language that there are many applications, each is taken in turn for fairness, and the application is being considered in the ordinary course of administration. The lieutenant colonel at Army Congressional liaison will forward that ABCMR boilerplate response to the Congressional staff, happy to get it off their plate as just the importuning of another annoying and bothersome Soldier or veteran. The Congressional staff will forward the worthless ABCMR response to the applicant on very official looking Congressional letterhead, thereby checking the constituent service box but providing no real assistance and completely meaningless and unhelpful information.

Some attorneys consider expediting review of a client’s case, particularly if the record reflects an obvious or apparent error by the military department, by filing a complaint in the U.S. Court of Federal Claims or a United States district court without prior resort to the ABCMR or another correction board. There is no requirement to exhaust administrative remedies at the ABCMR or another correction board before filing a lawsuit against the United States. If there is such an obvious error, a voluntary remand to the board is a likely outcome within 90 days of filing with a court order that the Board issue a decision within six months – thereby saving 18 to 24 months or more of processing time and having the benefit of continuing court jurisdiction over the administrative process on remand. But that work around involves some risk, because any issue alleged in the complaint that was not raised below during the Army or military administrative process, whether involving a PEB, board, or other military proceeding, may be dismissed by the court as having been waived. See Exnicios v. United States, 140 Fed. Cl. 339, 367 (2018) (plaintiff waived his unlawful command influence claims by not raising them before a board of inquiry, an appeal to a show cause authority, or before a board of review); Spehr v. United States, 51 Fed. Cl. 69, 87–88 (2001) (holding plaintiff waived claim by not raising it during or after administrative discharge hearings), aff’d, 49 F. App’x 303 (Fed. Cir. 2002).
 
Unfortunately, your experience is not unique or an aberration. Despite the fanciful representations made on the ABCMR website suggesting that a decision will be made within 12 to 18 months, experience shows as you have discovered that it may take two to three years or longer for the ABCMR to issue a decision from the time it enters an application into its case management system. That does not include the 60 to 90 day period that the application sits in the mail room after receipt awaiting processing.

Unfortunately, there is no remedy for an applicant faced with inordinate ABCMR lassitude and unreasonable delay. The ABCMR knows this and has little or no incentive or motivation to work harder, faster or more efficiently. The requirement in 10 U.S.C. § 1557(b) that a correction board take final action within 18 months of receipt of an application is meaningless and offers an applicant no remedy. 10 U.S.C. § 1557(d) (“Failure of a Corrections Board to meet the applicable timeliness standard for any period of time under subsection (a) or (b) does not confer any presumption or advantage with respect to consideration by the board of any application.”); see Lewis v. United States, 476 F. App'x 240, 245 (Fed. Cir. 2012) (“[T]he failure to meet the timeliness standard [in § 1557] cannot be the basis for finding error in the BCNR's decision.”); Buholtz v. United States, 2023 WL 2054073, at *6 (Fed. Cl. Feb. 16, 2023). The Secretary of the Army or her delegee, just like the other secretaries of the military departments, routinely waives the timeliness standard for correction board action based on the purported determination that it “warrants a longer period of consideration.” 10 U.S.C. § 1557(c).

Congressional inquiries are worthless. Unless the applicant is or is backed by a major political donor or has some other unusual political juice, members of Congress have no interest in the administrative problems of Soldiers or veterans and any inquiry will be handled by low level staff members, usually at some remote office location. The congressional staff will send an inquiry to Army Congressional liaison where some lieutenant colonel action officer will forward it to the ABCMR. The ABCMR will respond with anodyne language that there are many applications, each is taken in turn for fairness, and the application is being considered in the ordinary course of administration. The lieutenant colonel at Army Congressional liaison will forward that ABCMR boilerplate response to the Congressional staff, happy to get it off their plate as just the importuning of another annoying and bothersome Soldier or veteran. The Congressional staff will forward the worthless ABCMR response to the applicant on very official looking Congressional letterhead, thereby checking the constituent service box but providing no real assistance and completely meaningless and unhelpful information.

Some attorneys consider expediting review of a client’s case, particularly if the record reflects an obvious or apparent error by the military department, by filing a complaint in the U.S. Court of Federal Claims or a United States district court without prior resort to the ABCMR or another correction board. There is no requirement to exhaust administrative remedies at the ABCMR or another correction board before filing a lawsuit against the United States. If there is such an obvious error, a voluntary remand to the board is a likely outcome within 90 days of filing with a court order that the Board issue a decision within six months – thereby saving 18 to 24 months or more of processing time and having the benefit of continuing court jurisdiction over the administrative process on remand. But that work around involves some risk, because any issue alleged in the complaint that was not raised below during the Army or military administrative process, whether involving a PEB, board, or other military proceeding, may be dismissed by the court as having been waived. See Exnicios v. United States, 140 Fed. Cl. 339, 367 (2018) (plaintiff waived his unlawful command influence claims by not raising them before a board of inquiry, an appeal to a show cause authority, or before a board of review); Spehr v. United States, 51 Fed. Cl. 69, 87–88 (2001) (holding plaintiff waived claim by not raising it during or after administrative discharge hearings), aff’d, 49 F. App’x 303 (Fed. Cir. 2002).
Thank you for this information.
 
Under review is almost meaningless. It can mean waiting in a tall pile. BCMRs are notoriously slow.
 
Honorable to medical.. and my case is at 14 months Army BCMR..no advisory opinion or anything yet.
 
15.5 months still no decision or advisory opinion yet. :(
My attorney notified me at the beginning of the month that an analyst was assigned to my case and we should be expecting a decision within several months(however long that may be) my case has been in ABCMR for 17 months now.
 
I did a congressional Inquiry and got the same generic response that it's currently being reviewed to make sure it complies with applicable statues and governing army regulations before presentation to the board.
Kind of ridiculous it's taking this long and no way to actually track it.
 
18 months and still no advisory opinion or decision but did receive a email stating my case is still under review.
 
My attorney notified me at the beginning of the month that an analyst was assigned to my case and we should be expecting a decision within several months(however long that may be) my case has been in ABCMR for 17 months now.
Any news on your case?
 
Let me tell you my story.

In 2012, I was contacted by my command who advised me due to my medical profiles, I was no longer able to serve in the Guard. This was after I had just reenlisted and was attending 68W school to reclass. This is also after four years in the Marines, three in the Army, and six in the National Guard two deployments to Iraq, blah blah blah. They literally handed me my NGB 22 and told me to have a nice day.

Fast forward to 2015 where I am having a casual conversation with a coworker. He is talking about his retirement from the military. I ask this young man “You seem so young. How did you retire” He proceeds to explain to me the Medical Retirement system. I thought…” Well this is odd.” So I start to dig into this information (Including this website) and find out “ Well shit..I have been raw dogged. “

I find out about this ABCMR and I filed my case. One that the Lincoln Lawyer would’ve been proud of with pictures and everything. It was legit. I receive a letter some time later. “I am sorry. Since you have been in the Army National Guard, you will need to apply to the State. Sure thing. Roger that.

I filed with the State at the same time I filed a congressional. The State General comes back “We did nothing wrong”. Shortly after I receive a phone call from a kind individual who works for the state IG. This individual tells me “I have seen your case. Because you have contacted congress there really is not much I can do for you. What I can tell you is that you are not the only person they have done this too and it’s a pattern. “ The individual provides me with a form they were required to provide me. The form, depending on the responses, would’ve led me to a board where I would’ve been rated or found fit for duty. They also directed me to look at my NGB 22. In the remarks they state, “Placed on PDRL” The individual states the only way to get on the PDRL is to go through the board. Bam. The smoking gun.

Well, you would think. So when the state replied and said they did nothing wrong, I also received an updated NGB 22 removing me from the PDRL list. So if anyone had inquired initially, at first sight, it would’ve appeared everything had been done correctly. But now that someone was asking questions, clean up had begun.

I submitted the states response, along with my awesome packet back to ABCMR. After not hearing from them for months, or really years by this time, I inquired and discovered they had reached a decision and sent the decision to a previous address ( Even though I had updated all my contact info ). Their response.” Yeah even though they didn’t follow correct policy, you likely would’ve been found fit for duty” … Not understanding or at least acknowledging, that had I been found fit for duty, I could’ve finished out my career, as my preceding reenlistment had shown my intention of doing so.

Now, this was before I knew anything about CRSC. I was a hundred percent from the VA and assumed my retirement would’ve been offset by the VA regardless. So I let the issue just kind of go. I hated the fact of giving up because it was the principle of just righting a wrong but really I felt I had exhausted all my options.

A few years later, 2024. I was contacted by NVSLP. They had come across my case. They decided they wanted to take it on. Fast forward to early 2025, I get an email from one of the wonderful lawyers. “Congratulations!!” I felt such a relief and so humbled these people took their time to represent me.

Its not over. I go up to a guard headquarters, get my retirement submitted, get my card. Life is good. Now by this time I have heard of CRSC. I decided to apply. I apply in May 2025. Shortly after, I get a letter. “ Sorry. You have to be on the retirement roles to qualify for CRSC. “ I think “Oh..Ok. I will wait. “ I submit a few more times but because of technical issues here and there, its never really received. Until September. I get my CRSC 90 percent. Sweet.. I wait and think “Where is the rest”

Well if you are on here then you know about the CRSC, SOTO Act, guidance given, guidance rescinded, and so on.

11 years I have been righting this wrong. That’s why when I hear all this Army “Do the right thing” I realize its all just garbage. Do the right thing the first time and you wont have to worry about all the other stuff later.
 
Let me tell you my story.

In 2012, I was contacted by my command who advised me due to my medical profiles, I was no longer able to serve in the Guard. This was after I had just reenlisted and was attending 68W school to reclass. This is also after four years in the Marines, three in the Army, and six in the National Guard two deployments to Iraq, blah blah blah. They literally handed me my NGB 22 and told me to have a nice day.

Fast forward to 2015 where I am having a casual conversation with a coworker. He is talking about his retirement from the military. I ask this young man “You seem so young. How did you retire” He proceeds to explain to me the Medical Retirement system. I thought…” Well this is odd.” So I start to dig into this information (Including this website) and find out “ Well shit..I have been raw dogged. “

I find out about this ABCMR and I filed my case. One that the Lincoln Lawyer would’ve been proud of with pictures and everything. It was legit. I receive a letter some time later. “I am sorry. Since you have been in the Army National Guard, you will need to apply to the State. Sure thing. Roger that.

I filed with the State at the same time I filed a congressional. The State General comes back “We did nothing wrong”. Shortly after I receive a phone call from a kind individual who works for the state IG. This individual tells me “I have seen your case. Because you have contacted congress there really is not much I can do for you. What I can tell you is that you are not the only person they have done this too and it’s a pattern. “ The individual provides me with a form they were required to provide me. The form, depending on the responses, would’ve led me to a board where I would’ve been rated or found fit for duty. They also directed me to look at my NGB 22. In the remarks they state, “Placed on PDRL” The individual states the only way to get on the PDRL is to go through the board. Bam. The smoking gun.

Well, you would think. So when the state replied and said they did nothing wrong, I also received an updated NGB 22 removing me from the PDRL list. So if anyone had inquired initially, at first sight, it would’ve appeared everything had been done correctly. But now that someone was asking questions, clean up had begun.

I submitted the states response, along with my awesome packet back to ABCMR. After not hearing from them for months, or really years by this time, I inquired and discovered they had reached a decision and sent the decision to a previous address ( Even though I had updated all my contact info ). Their response.” Yeah even though they didn’t follow correct policy, you likely would’ve been found fit for duty” … Not understanding or at least acknowledging, that had I been found fit for duty, I could’ve finished out my career, as my preceding reenlistment had shown my intention of doing so.

Now, this was before I knew anything about CRSC. I was a hundred percent from the VA and assumed my retirement would’ve been offset by the VA regardless. So I let the issue just kind of go. I hated the fact of giving up because it was the principle of just righting a wrong but really I felt I had exhausted all my options.

A few years later, 2024. I was contacted by NVSLP. They had come across my case. They decided they wanted to take it on. Fast forward to early 2025, I get an email from one of the wonderful lawyers. “Congratulations!!” I felt such a relief and so humbled these people took their time to represent me.

Its not over. I go up to a guard headquarters, get my retirement submitted, get my card. Life is good. Now by this time I have heard of CRSC. I decided to apply. I apply in May 2025. Shortly after, I get a letter. “ Sorry. You have to be on the retirement roles to qualify for CRSC. “ I think “Oh..Ok. I will wait. “ I submit a few more times but because of technical issues here and there, its never really received. Until September. I get my CRSC 90 percent. Sweet.. I wait and think “Where is the rest”

Well if you are on here then you know about the CRSC, SOTO Act, guidance given, guidance rescinded, and so on.

11 years I have been righting this wrong. That’s why when I hear all this Army “Do the right thing” I realize its all just garbage. Do the right thing the first time and you wont have to worry about all the other stuff later.
Incredible.
 
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