Round 33402 of TDRL cannabis use

Is it allowed on tdrl
Hello @Depressed_Cool_guy
cc: @PERS-95

I don't use it, but I think it should be legalized.

Important: "In the United States, the use and possession of cannabis is illegal under federal law for any purpose by way of the
Controlled Substances Act of 1970 (CSA)."

Just me talking about myself: Now, I would not use cannabis while I was under military jurisdiction. You are retired (per the title of this thread) but it is currently temporary. You will be examined in the future.

For the record, Nixon was president, and I was an E4/SP4 in Vietnam when my experience occurred. My adult son is the family expert on this subject.

Good luck,
Ron
 
Technically, if you are retired, you still fall under UCMJ. The basis for this is long and somewhat complicated, but essentially while retired you are actually receiving “retainer pay.” That is, with the right Presidential finding about a war, you can actually be called back to active duty when you are retired.
Now, that’s the technical answer about UCMJ jurisdiction for retirees (permanent and temporary).
The reality is that it is inconceivable that anything would happen to a retiree who the military learns has been using marijuana. Basically, the administrative costs to taking any action coupled with the fact that the commander for the purpose of any action has neither the time nor inclination to pursue something like this or even be aware of it.
The last time the military court-martialed someone on the TDRL was post-World War II with a retiree who struck an officer in, I think it was Japan. Maybe Europe. But that only happened because the military was the only functioning government at the time.
 
In 2015, retired Marine Staff Sgt. Steven Larrabee, who was convicted of sexually assaulting a fellow bartender, the wife of an active-duty Marine, while she was unconscious and recording the incident on his cell phone. This happened just three months after he had retired and had taken a civilian job in Iwakuni, Japan.
 
In 2015, retired Marine Staff Sgt. Steven Larrabee, who was convicted of sexually assaulting a fellow bartender, the wife of an active-duty Marine, while she was unconscious and recording the incident on his cell phone. This happened just three months after he had retired and had taken a civilian job in Iwakuni, Japan.
That’s right, I had forgotten about that case. Here’s a link to it: https://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/inter...BB78525889200515BFF/$file/21-5012-1957468.pdf

While he was retired for length of service and transferred to Fleet Reserve, the connecting factor with the military exercising UCMJ jurisdiction is that the crime took place in a foreign country and, in Larabee’s case, the victim was the wife of a currently serving Marine.
So, yes, the case remains that as a retiree you are still subject to the UCMJ. But, it is extremely rare to see the military exercise jurisdiction except where the crime is serious and there is no other US court that could act.
 
Hello @Depressed_Cool_guy
cc: @PERS-95

I don't use it, but I think it should be legalized.

Important: "In the United States, the use and possession of cannabis is illegal under federal law for any purpose by way of the
Controlled Substances Act of 1970 (CSA)."

Just me talking about myself: Now, I would not use cannabis while I was under military jurisdiction. You are retired (per the title of this thread) but it is currently temporary. You will be examined in the future.

For the record, Nixon was president, and I was an E4/SP4 in Vietnam when my experience occurred. My adult son is the family expert on this subject.

Good luck,
Ron
Tha k you
 
Hea
That’s right, I had forgotten about that case. Here’s a link to it: https://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/inter...BB78525889200515BFF/$file/21-5012-1957468.pdf

While he was retired for length of service and transferred to Fleet Reserve, the connecting factor with the military exercising UCMJ jurisdiction is that the crime took place in a foreign country and, in Larabee’s case, the victim was the wife of a currently serving Marine.
So, yes, the case remains that as a retiree you are still subject to the UCMJ. But, it is extremely rare to see the military exercise jurisdiction except where the crime is serious and there is no other US court that could act.
Yeah I mean I know plenty of retirees that do but they’re regular retirees not tdrl med retirees that’s my caveat
 
Hea

Yeah I mean I know plenty of retirees that do but they’re regular retirees not tdrl med retirees that’s my caveat
The rules apply the same to all classes of retirees. There are defenses, though. The case linked above mentions 30 year retirees. I don’t think that’s been tested.

All in all, I wouldn’t worry.
 
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