How to ask for a TDRL reconsideration to PDRL in IDES?

[KDawgie]

Hello,

I've noticed many posts saying that most MH retirements/separations are TDRL although most of that is PTSD related when they cite the CFR.

If my rating comes back TDRL and I would like to submit a reconsideration for it to be PDRL, how and where do I do so?

Would it be with the VARR or formal/informal board? I figured the VARR is just for the VA's % rating consideration and not necessarily going to dictate whether the DoD will assign it PDRL/TDRL. I am not sure though.

The referred condition is schizophrenia.

Thanks for any insight you can provide.

 

[Provis]

Hello,

I've noticed many posts saying that most MH retirements/separations are TDRL although most of that is PTSD related when they cite the CFR.

If my rating comes back TDRL and I would like to submit a reconsideration for it to be PDRL, how and where do I do so?

Would it be with the VARR or formal/informal board? I figured the VARR is just for the VA's % rating consideration and not necessarily going to dictate whether the DoD will assign it PDRL/TDRL. I am not sure though.

The referred condition is schizophrenia.

Thanks for any insight you can provide.

That is because its in the law that PTSD is to be TDRL. It's not impossible to get it PDRL but it's not common. If iPEB states unfit condition is TDRL you can appeal it via a FPEB.

Schizophrenia isn't PTSD so you have a much better chance of PDRL. I too would appeal to FPEB if ipeb comes back TDRL.

 

[MSG_Raven2-3]

How does the PEB determine “stable” vs “unstable”? I have a MH rating for over 9 years, which shows no improvement. However, my MEB NARSUM states “will not be able to return to duty for three years” does that mean “stable”. My VA rating sheet says all conditions are “static” with no further exams

 

[Provis]

How does the PEB determine “stable” vs “unstable”? I have a MH rating for over 9 years, which shows no improvement. However, my MEB NARSUM states “will not be able to return to duty for three years” does that mean “stable”. My VA rating sheet says all conditions are “static” with no further exams

Some conditions by law must be unstable and you get checked again after about 6 months of getting out. Normally that's case for PTSD etc.

 

[Damato]

Hello,

I've noticed many posts saying that most MH retirements/separations are TDRL although most of that is PTSD related when they cite the CFR.

If my rating comes back TDRL and I would like to submit a reconsideration for it to be PDRL, how and where do I do so?

Would it be with the VARR or formal/informal board? I figured the VARR is just for the VA's % rating consideration and not necessarily going to dictate whether the DoD will assign it PDRL/TDRL. I am not sure though. poppy playtime chapter 3

The referred condition is schizophrenia.

Thanks for any insight you can provide.

Navigating the transition from TDRL to PDRL can be challenging, especially for conditions such as schizophrenia that may not fit the usual criteria.

 

[JoelPettit]

@KDawgie

Having been an IPEB and FPEB attorney who had many schizophrenia cases, I always needed to conduct a very thorough review of the medical records to give good answers to the questions you posed above. Stability, in the eyes of the PEB, is not always clear, as the IDES incorporates legal stability with medical stability in a somewhat ham-fisted manner. Asking for answers from anyone who hasn't dissected your medical records will just leave you with more unanswered questions, fueling your anxiety. If you want answers ASAP, you either need to get with ODC or hire a private attorney to do the work so he or she can get you well-reasoned answers. Still, any answer given will be, by definition, speculative.

I hope this helps.

S/f,

Joel

Disclosure: I was a Marine JAG, Active Duty and Reserve IPEB & FPEB attorney, federal government civilian FPEB & TDRL-focused attorney at the Navy PEB, and now a private attorney focused solely on IDES cases. This post is meant as procedural insight only and should not be construed as legal advice related to a specific case or a legal analysis of facts thereof.